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Der Weg nach unten ist für Sabina frei und ein Boden momentan nicht in Sicht. Ich kann mir Kurse und einem Euro hier gut vorstellen.
Und noch was, ich bin in Sabina investiert, kenne die Risiken und brauch keine Platform um mich ausweinen zu können. Ich bin überzeugt, dass Sabina seinen Weg gehen wird, aber da muss man noch einige Jahre Geduld haben, min. 5 Jahre.
MfG
No Cash
Es bringt uns nichts hier zu streiten, ihr habt ja beide Recht!
Schaut euch aber mal die Anderen Explorer an und zeigt mir nur einen, der besser steht als Sabina und in 3 Jahren in Produktion geht?
Also 1€ würde mir sehr weh tun, ich denke bei spätestens 2€ sollte es sich stabilisieren, hängt natürlich auch viel vom Verlauf der Euro-Krise ab....
Gegenüber der Finanzkrise 2008 steht Sabina nämlich nun auf solideren Beinen (Deal mit Xstracta und mehr Cash-Reserven).
19:23 25.11.08
Crowflight Minerals (TSX.V - CML) - VERKAUFEN
Wir haben Crowflight Minerals bereits in unserer Kurzanalyse vom 18. September 2008 bei 0.20 CAD zum Verkauf empfohlen. Der jetzige Kurs gibt uns Recht. Wir stehen bei 0.11 CAD. Lesern, die immer noch investiert sind, empfehlen wir auch bei jetzigen Kursen noch auszusteigen. Die Verwässerung bei Crowflight ist mit über 300 Millionen Aktien enorm. Obwohl 21% der Produktion von Xstrata zu einem Fixpreis von 8.49 USD pro Pfund abgenommen wird, besteht für den Verkauf von 79% der Produktion weiterhin Marktpreisrisiko. Der Nickelpreis ist zudem seit dem 18. September nochmals um ca. 50% gefallen. Dadurch wurde fast die komplette Profitmarge von Crowflight Minerals aufgefressen. Die Produktionskosten pro Pfund Nickel betragen 4.32 USD, der aktuelle Nickelpreis steht bei 4.55 USD pro Pfund. Die aktuelle Profitmarge beträgt also nur 23 US-Cents. Unser Urteil für die Crowflight-Aktie lautet daher: Verkaufen.
Sabina Silver (TSX.V - SBB) - VERKAUFEN
Sabina Silver muss sich aktuell in einem sehr schwierigen Umfeld erneut über den Kapitalmarkt finanzieren. Wir gehen davon aus, dass die Finanzierung von 6.5 Millionen Aktien für anvisierte 4 Millionen CAD nicht erfolgreich abgeschlossen werden wird. Das Hackett River-Projekt kann wenn überhaupt erst 2014 in Produktion gebracht werden. In Anbetracht des schwachen Silberpreises von 10.46 USD, der anhaltenden Finanzkrise und bisher nicht eindeutigen Erkenntnissen über die Wirtschaftlichkeit des Hackett River-Projektes empfehlen wir die Aktie von Sabina Silver beim aktuellen Kurs von 0.42 CAD zum Verkauf.
....und für solche aussagen bekommen in diesem land irgendwelche leute richtig viel geld, die haben damals am tiefpunkt den verkauf empfohlen und ab da ging das ding ab wie ne rakete... und den klotz haket river haben sie sich jetz auch vom bein geschaft und richtig gut dafür bekommen...
dass zur Zeit auch Goldprouzenten ganz ordentlich verlieren; ein Entwickler/Explorere wie Sabin ahat es da ja immer noch etwas schwerer...schaut euch mal Avion Gold, B2Gold oder Medusa Mining.
Selbst sehr profitable Goldhersteller gehen gerade in die Knie. Langfristig ist es aber eine Kaufgelegenheit...(hoffe ich mal.:.-)
EXPANSION AT THE UMWELT DEPOSIT, BACK RIVER GOLD PROJECT,
NUNAVUT
New High Grade Umwelt G2 Zone being Defined
Hole 11GSE121 at Umwelt returns 14.24 g/t Au over 28.25 m including 29.96 g/t
Au over 8.35 m
Hole 11GSE092 at Umwelt returns 6.18 g/t Au over 23.20 m
New assay results expand the mineralized zone width in
previously released Hole 11GSE096 at Umwelt returning 5.19 g/t Au over 60.2m
Vancouver, BC – Sabina Gold & Silver Corp (SBB.T) is pleased to announce additional assay
results from holes drilled as part of the 2011 exploration program on its targets at the Goose
claim block at its 100% owned Back River Project in Nunavut, Canada.
The 2011 drilling campaign at Back River has been focussing on expanding the existing deposits
at Umwelt and Llama, and looking for new discoveries by applying the Company’s exploration
tool box to open pit targets on the Goose and George claim blocks, as well as the Wishbone gold
claims.
The Umwelt deposit, discovered in 2010, contains an indicated resource of 4.6 m tonnes grading
6.0 g/t Au for a total of 900,000 ounces of Au and an inferred resource of 1.1 m tonnes grading
6.4 g/t Au for a total of 221,000 ounces of Au. Drilling in 2011 has extended this resource
approximately 900 m along strike to the south. The Umwelt deposit has now been defined over a
1.15 km strike length and for 1.5 km down plunge and remains open.
Recent drilling at depth of the southern extension of Umwelt continues to encounter high grade
thick mineralization in a zone called the Umwelt G2 Zone (G2 stands for, Good grade and Good
Thickness). This zone is at a depth of approximately 600 m and is open dip and down plunge to
the south. The strong grade and thickness of the zone is typified by recently completed hole
11GSE121 which returned 14.24 g/t Au over 28.25 m. The G2 Zone is the direct extension of
the wide mineralized zone that makes up the proposed open pit at Umwelt and appears to have a
stronger gold tenor.
“Our work continues to demonstrate the high quality of the Back River Property. In our 2011
campaign, we have extended and expanded our Umwelt and Llama deposits and we have made
eight new discoveries on our Back River and Wishbone claims with many assays still pending.”
said Tony Walsh, President & CEO “We are very encouraged by the success we are having in
identifying good grades and good widths in our deposit areas. On the discovery front we are very
encouraged by recent developments. While not all discoveries we make will be of the nature and
size we are looking for, our success rate in finding gold mineralization based on the limited
number of targets tested this year is excellent. This demonstrates the prospective nature of the
land package we have at Back River and Wishbone and we are confident that we will continue to
make new discoveries.”
To date, at Back River a total of 175 holes and 61,800 metres of core have been completed, or
are in progress, with many assays still pending. Drilling will continue with two drills at Umwelt
until approximately October 1, 2011.
UMWELT
To date a total of 63 holes totalling 33,350 m have been drilled or are in progress on the Umwelt
zone at the Goose property. Results continue to demonstrate that Umwelt is a strong, well
mineralized system with excellent continuity and grade.
New results have been returned for three holes completed in what is now called the Umwelt G2
Zone. Hole 11GSE121 on section 4050N returned 14.24 g/t Au over 28.25 m including 29.96 g/t
Au over 8.35 m at a depth of 600 m. Hole 11GSE092 on section 4150N returned 6.18 g/t Au
over 23.20 m including 7.28 g/t Au over 18.35 m. A number of additional lower grade zones
were also intersected in this hole. Hole 11GSE102BW on section 4000N returned 7.62 g/t Au
over 10.00 m including 29.45 g/t Au over 2.00 m. Bounding assays for all of these intercepts
have yet to be returned. New assay results have increased the width of the mineralized zone in
previously released Hole 11GSE096 collared on section 4400N. Hole 11GSE returned 5.19 g/t
Au over 60.2m. Recently returned assay results from Umwelt are summarized in Table 1.
The mineralized zones are hosted within a turbiditic sedimentary sequence containing silicate
and oxide facies iron formations. Gold dominantly occurs with quartz +/- carbonate veining and
arsenopyrite +/- pyrite +/- pyrrhotite in the iron formation. Drilling at Umwelt has identified an
anti-form structure with a fold hinge that plunges to the south. Thick zones of gold
mineralization are associated with the fold hinge in what is now known as the Main Zone.
Mineralization also occurs along a separate iron formation horizon immediately to the west
known as the West Zone.
RESOURCE UPDATE
On September 20, 2011, the Company announced an updated resource for the Goose deposit.
Goose, Llama and Umwelt sit within a 5km long corridor and are envisioned as three major open
pits supporting one central milling facility at the Goose claim block. The George deposit,
located approximately 50 km to the north on the George claim block, is envisioned as an
underground satellite deposit that would be mined and transported to the mill at Goose via winter
road. The Company has recently engaged SRK Engineering Ltd. to commence work on a
Preliminary Economic Assessment of a gold mining operation at Back River. The study will
comprise the new open pit Goose resource, the soon to be updated Umwelt and Llama resources
(incorporating 2011 drilling) as well as the existing George resource. The study is anticipated to
be completed early in 2012, after which, if positive, a Preliminary Project Description will be
filed with the Nunavut Water Board to initiate the permitting process for the project.
Back River Mineral Resources ‐ September 9, 2011
Classification Location Tonnes
Grade
Au (g/t) Ounces Au
Open Pit
Indicated Goose* 7,697,000 4.45 1,101,000
Llama** 1,860,000 9.41 562,000
Umwelt** 4,601,000 6.08 900,000
Total Indicated 14,158,000 5.63 2,563,000
Inferred Goose* 436,000 3.53 50,000
Llama** 981,000 5.71 180,000
Umwelt** 1,067,000 6.43 221,000
Total Inferred 2,483,000 5.64 451,000
Underground
Indicated George*** 1,838,000 10.00 590,000
Total Indicated 1,838,000 10.00 590,000
Inferred Goose* 570,000 5.81 106,000
George*** 2,563,000 10.50 866,000
Total Inferred 3,133,000 9.65 972,000
Notes*
1. CIM definition standards were followed for Mineral Resources.
2. The Qualified Person for the Goose, Llama and Umwelt Mineral Resource estimate is Patti Nakai-Lajoie, P.Geo., RPA
3. Open pit Mineral Resources are estimated at a pit discard cut-off grade of 0.70 g/t Au and 90% recovery. Pit
optimizations were used to constrain the resources.
Silber ist überirdisch inzwischen seltener als GoldWürde man alle Goldreserven, die jemals gefördert wurden (rund 157.000 Tonnen), einschmelzen und zu einem Würfel giessen, so hätte dieser eine Kantenlänge von ca. 20 Metern. Der Würfel aus Silber aber nur eine Kantenlänge von ca. 11 Metern. Und der Würfel schrumpft weiter.
Trotzdem ist Silber (noch) billiger, sein Wert ist längst nicht eingepreist. Gold wurde seit der Antike gehortet. Klar, das geschah auch mit Silber. Doch seit ca. 100 Jahren tut sich da was. Etwas ist anders als bei Gold.
Silber ist zu einer der wichtigsten Industrierohstoffe geworden!
Dem Silber ergeht es wie dem Erdöl, dem Erdgas und vielen Metallen. Über 50% der Silberförderung wandern mittlerweile sofort in die Industrie. Und dort wird das Silber verbraucht. Meist unwiederbringlich.
Silber hat die beste elektrische Leitfähigkeit aller Metalle. Es ist immer dann gefragt, wenn in winzig-kleinen Schaltkreisen Strom durch dünnste Leitungen fliessen muss. So findet sich Silber in Mikrochips ebenso wie in den Flüssigkristalldisplays von Handys und Flachbildfernsehern. Silber wird auch dringend zum Fertigen von Solaranlagen, Elektrogeräten, Brennstoffzellen gebraucht. In der Wasseraufbereitung, in der Biotechnologie, in Handys und Laptops?
Silber tötet Keime und BakterienErst jetzt beginnen die Haushaltsindustrie und die Medizin diesen Fakt in konkrete Produkte umzusetzen.
Beispiel Medizin: Silber wirkt antibakteriell, das heisst, mit Silberionen versehene Oberflächen sind weniger anfällig für gesundheitsgefährdende Keime. Vom Operationsbesteck bis zum Bodenbelag des Krankenhausflurs eröffnet sich ein grosser Markt. Auch die Bekleidungsindustrie macht sich die antibakterielle Wirkung des Silbers zu nutze. Dem unangenehmen Geruch von leicht verschwitzter Kleidung geht es an den Kragen.
Dieser Trend nimmt immer mehr Fahrt auf...
Eine Unze Silber pro AutoAuch in jedem Auto wird übrigens rund eine Unze Silber verbaut, also ca. 32 Gramm.
SilberrecyclingWeltweit werden durch Recycling nur rund 1/3 des aktuellen ANGEBOTS befriedigt. Der entscheidende Punkt ist aber: das Recycling geht seit Jahren kontinuierlich zurück. Denn dieses Edelmetall wird in der Industrie in so geringen Mengen verarbeitet, dass ein wirtschaftliches Recyceln gar nicht möglich ist. Es lohnt sich auf Grund des niedrigen Silberpreises einfach nicht! Noch nicht!
Die weltweite Minenproduktion hat im Jahre 2002 ihren Produktionshöhepunkt überschritten.
Neue Minen sind nicht in Sicht. Und wenn sie es wären, so würde es viele, viele Jahre dauern ...bis diese produktiv fördern und den begehrten Rohstoff zur Verfügung stellen könnten.
Seriöse Berechnungen gehen davon aus, dass etwa in den Jahren 2025 bis 2030 die letzte Silbermine ihre Tore schliessen muss. Das "Problem"...oder das "GUTE" daran ist: die Nachfrage nach diesem Metall steigt immer weiter an, weil es einfach nicht ersetzbar ist. Ausser durch GOLD!
Der aktuelle Silberpreis ist mit rund 10 Dollar je Feinunze noch keineswegs besonders hoch. Zum vergleich: historisch betrachtet lag das Allzeithoch von SILBER im Jahre 1477 umgerechnet nach heutigen Massstäben bei 806 USD pro Unze. Also rund 80 mal höher als Heute.
1997 begann Investorenlegende Warren Buffett massiv in Silber zu investieren. Auch sein Freund Bill Gates machte mit; der Microsoft-Gründer ist heute Grossaktionär von Pan American Silver, einem der bedeutendsten Silberminenbetreiber. Die beiden Multimilliardäre hatten erkannt, dass zwei Trends über kurz oder lang eine neue Hochkonjunktur auf dem Silbermarkt auslösen mussten: Viele Minen hatten angesichts des Preisverfalls die Förderung gedrosselt oder ganz aufgegeben; gleichzeitig nahm der Verbrauch seitens der Industrie aber stetig zu.
Immer mehr Menschen spüren den Wertverlust des Papiergeldes. Immer mehr legen in Silber an.
Das einzige Metall, das Silber ohne Qualitätsverluste ersetzen könnte ist das Gold!
Damit ist jetzt schon klar: Silber wird im Preis steigen.
Fachleute rechnen mit einer Verzehnfachung des Silberpreises in den nächsten Jahren.
http://www.rohstoff-spiegel.de/abo_count.php?url=rs_2011-20.pdf
-Kitikmeot Inuit Association has agreed to negotiate long-term land use agreements for Back River and Wishbone properties-
Vancouver, BC - Sabina Gold & Silver Corp (SBB.T) is pleased to announce it has entered into a Memorandum of Understanding ("MOU") with the Kitikmeot Inuit Association ("KIA") for the creation of a development trust (the "Trust").
In recognition of Inuit rights under the Nunavut Land Claims Agreement, and in light of Sabina's continuing commitment to development of its projects on Inuit Owned Lands in Nunavut, Sabina and the KIA have signed a MOU whereby Sabina would establish and contribute to the Trust.
The Trust would provide short and long term benefits to the Inuit of the Kitikmeot region in which Sabina's Nunavut properties are located. The Trust will contribute towards KIA development projects and initiatives including training and education as well as infrastructure projects that will serve to support sustainable economic development in a currently struggling region.
"The development of the Trust is indicative of our investment in the people and sustainability of the Kitikmeot," said Tony Walsh "We view this Trust as a vehicle to cultivate long term relationships, train our future employees and support infrastructure needs and growth. We realize a need to start now to prepare for our future as a mid-tier gold producer and establish win-win relationships to prosper. We are proud to be one of the first companies in Nunavut to create such a Trust."
The definitive form of the agreement would incorporate the following terms:
•The Trust would receive 3% of Sabina's net proceeds from the silver royalty retained by Sabina on the Hackett River and Wishbone properties sold to Xstrata Zinc.
•The Trust would be comprised of a maximum of six trustees of which a majority would be KIA appointees with at least one Sabina appointee;
•Funds contributed to the Trust would be allocated by the Trustees to initiatives that provide benefits to the Kitikmeot region. A portion of the Trust funds would be retained for allocation after mine or project closure;
•Payments can be made to the Trust in shares at Sabina's election (subject to regulatory approval);
•To kick off the initiative, prior to creation of the Trust, Sabina will pay approximately $1.4 million to an existing KIA fund which provides for development and community initiatives in the Kitikmeot Region.
Land Use Agreement
The Company and the KIA have also agreed that it would be mutually beneficial to enter into long-term land use agreements for the Back River and Sabina's remaining Wishbone properties. Key provisions which have been agreed upon in a separate Memorandum of Understanding include an initial seven year term for exploration activities with a provision to extend for an additional two years.
The Company is well funded to continue its aggressive exploration and development objectives and expects to end the year with $150 million in cash.
SABINA GOLD & SILVER CORP
Sabina Gold & Silver Corp. is an emerging precious metals company with district scale, world class undeveloped assets in one of the world's newest, most politically stable mining jurisdictions: Nunavut, Canada.
In Addition to a significant silver royalty on the Hackett River and Xstrata Wishbone claims, the assets consist of the Back River Gold Project, an advanced exploration property, as well as the Wishbone Claims, a vastly prospective grass roots project.
For further information please contact:
Nicole Hoeller, Director, IR:
1 888 648-4218
nhoeller@sabinagoldsilver.com
Forward Looking Statements
Statements relating to exploration, work on the Company's natural resource properties and the expected results of this work are forward-looking statements within the meaning of securities legislation of certain Provinces in Canada. Forward looking statements are statements that are not historical facts and are generally, but not always, identified by the words "expects," "plans," "anticipates," "believes," "intends," "estimates," 'projects," "potential" and similar expressions, or that events or conditions "will," "would," "may," "could" or "should" occur. Information inferred from the interpretation of drilling results may also be deemed to be forward looking statements, as it constitutes a prediction of what might be found to be present when and if a project is actually developed. These forward-looking statements are subject to a variety of risks and uncertainties which could cause actual events or results to differ materially from those reflected in the forward-looking statements, including, without limitation: risks related to fluctuations in metal prices; uncertainties related to raising sufficient financing to fund the planned work in a timely manner and on acceptable terms; changes in planned work resulting from weather, logistical, technical or other factors; the possibility that results of work will not fulfill expectations and realize the perceived potential of the Company's properties; risk of accidents, equipment breakdowns and labour disputes or other unanticipated difficulties or interruptions; the possibility of cost overruns or unanticipated expenses in the work program; the risk of environmental contamination or damage resulting from Sabina's operations and other risks and uncertainties, including those described in Sabina's Annual Report for the year ended December 31, 2010.
Forward-looking statements are based on the beliefs, estimates and opinions of Sabina's management on the date the statements are made. Sabina undertakes no obligation to update these forward-looking statements should management's beliefs, estimates or opinions, or other factors, change.
This news release has been authorized by the undersigned on behalf of Sabina Gold & Silver Corp
Sabina Gold & Silver Completes Sale of Hackett River Project and Certain Wishbone Claims to Xstrata Zinc
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Vancouver, BC - Sabina Gold & Silver Corp (SBB.T) ("Sabina" or the "Company") is pleased to announce the closing of the sale of its Hackett River Project and certain Wishbone claims (together the "Properties") in Nunavut, Canada to Xstrata Canada Corporation, Xstrata Zinc Canada Division ("Xstrata Zinc").
Hackett River, located 45 km west of the Company's Back River gold project in Nunavut, is a silver rich volcanic massive sulphide ("VMS") project and is one of the largest undeveloped projects of its type. The project contains a potentially mineable resource containing an indicated resource of 43 million tonnes with 200 million ounces of silver (144 g/t) and 2 million tonnes of zinc (4.65%) along with an additional inferred resource of 15 million tonnes with 64 million ounces of silver (136 g/t) and 652,000 tonnes of zinc (4.46%). The project also contains appreciable copper, lead and gold.
On October 3, 2011, as contemplated in the purchase agreement, Xstrata Zinc deposited $50 million in escrow, pending registration of land transfers and transfers of associated licenses and permits, for which the Company has received all required consents. In addition, Sabina has reserved a silver production royalty equal to 22.5% of the first 190 million ounces of payable silver from the Properties and 12.5% of all payable silver from the Properties thereafter.
Xstrata Zinc has agreed to incur not less than $50 million on exploration and other expenditures on the Properties over a four year period in order to advance the Properties.
Xstrata Zinc Canada Chief Operating Officer Manuel Alvarez commented: "The closing of this transaction marks an important milestone in our strategy to grow our business in Canada. We look forward to working with local stakeholders in Nunavut in the coming years as this project moves forward."
Xstrata Zinc as the world's largest zinc producer has the means, experience and financial resources to push Hackett River forward at an expedited pace. The transaction effectively crystallizes value in Hackett River for Sabina shareholders and poises Sabina for a market re-rating as a gold company.
"We believe that this transaction is innovative and provides significant value to our shareholders going forward," said Tony Walsh, President & CEO "The deal marks the evolution of Sabina into a purely precious metals company with significant gold and silver assets. We believe the value of our silver royalty will increase as Xstrata brings Hackett closer to production."
The value created for Sabina shareholders from this transaction includes:
◦Potential significant cash flow at no cost from silver royalty. 22.5% x 190 million ounces of silver = ~42.75 million ounces of silver, plus
◦12.5% x actual Life Of Mine silver production from new silver discoveries
•Significant leverage to future increases in silver price;
•Ability to leverage the silver royalty to pay for construction of Back River either through sale or pledge against debt, mitigating against future dilution;
•Xstrata Zinc, the world's largest zinc producer, presents the potential for increased production at Hackett River and an accelerated development timeline;
•Sabina expects to secure the right to use infrastructure built by Xstrata for Hackett on commercial terms which could enhance and reduce risk at our gold project at Back River.
Once the land transfers have been registered and licences and permits have been transferred, the $50 million cash will be released from escrow, further bolstering the Company's treasury. The Company expects to end the year with approximately $150 million in cash.
SABINA GOLD & SILVER CORP
Sabina Gold & Silver Corp. is an emerging precious metals company with district scale, world class undeveloped assets in one of the world's newest, most politically stable mining jurisdictions: Nunavut, Canada.
In addition to the royalty described above, Sabina's assets comprise the Back River Gold Project, an advanced exploration property, as well as the Wishbone Claims, a vastly prospective grass roots project.
Quality Assurance
Mr. Peter Manojlovic, P. Geo, and Vice-President, Exploration of Sabina Gold & Silver Corp is a Qualified Person under the terms of NI43-101 and has reviewed the technical content of this press release and approved its dissemination.
Project management of the PEA was conducted by Eric Harkonen, P.Eng. and Prinicipal Project Manager/Mine Engineer of PEG. He is a Qualified Person under the terms of 43-101 and can be found on www.sedar.com.
Diamond drill core was sent to ALS Chemex preparation laboratory in Yellowknife, NWT. From there coarse rejects and pulps go to the ALS Chemex lab in North Vancouver BC. Quality control is monitored on a continual basis and utilizes a system of standards, blanks and duplicates to ensure analytical accuracy. The protocols and procedures used in 2011 are the same as those used in earlier campaigns by Sabina Gold & Silver Corp. and have been deemed appropriate in the above noted 43-101 compliant resource reports.
For further information please contact:
jetzt zeigt sich welche vorteile sabinaaktionäre vom verkauf haben!!
ein super deal.
MfG
No-Cash
Es ist doch normal das sie nach dieser Superwoche auch wieder verliert"Gewinnmitnahmen"schau dir doch mal das Orderbuch in Kanada an,da wirst du bemerken das es wesentlich mehr Käufer als Verkäufer gab."Über Wochensicht gesehen"
Also meines Erachtens ist Sabina von fast 5,50€ bis unter 2€ gerutscht und dies innerhalb ein paar Monaten, hat sich fast gedrittelt. Da kann man nicht von Superdeal, Supermonaten, Superaktie sprechen. Es geht mir darum, dass man hier superlative Wörter benutzt und der Verlauf der Aktie dies nicht wiederspiegelt. Bleibt mit den Füssen auf dem Teppich, wenn der Markt noch weiter runtergeht, dann wird Sabina auch weiter runtergehen und zwar, wie in der Vergangenheit auch, überproportionnal.
@zack26
in drei Tagen fast bzw. kurz mehr als 50%........da habe ich was nicht mitbekommen
da darf sie schon mal 2-3% fallen.........da habe ich wiederum nichts mitbekommen
Schönes WE
MfG
No-Cash