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A Bashers Confession:

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OT: Bashing - An interesting read...

Patriot Scientific (BB: PTSC)
By: wallstreet411
25 Apr 2005, 12:30 PM EDT
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OT: By Tom Martin
aka "Steve Tracy"
aka "Firebird_1965"

Today I want to come clean about something I feel very badly about. I cannot undo some
of the things I have done, but hopefully this message will prevent other such occurrences
in the future.

I am a paid basher.

Yes, it is true. Today is my last day at this company; I?m moving on to a new job. But
before I go, I want to explain a few things because this just isn?t right and I won?t feel
good about myself until I expose this sham. It?s hurt too many people and I don?t want it
on my conscience anymore. I can no longer live with a lie.

I work for a company called Franklin, Andrews, Kramer & Edelstein in Stamford, CT.
Basically, it?s a Boiler Room much like the one in the movie of the same name. The
idea behind my group is to bash the price of a company?s stock down low enough to
where the group of investors who retained our company?s services can buy the stock
really cheap and perhaps even take it over all together.

There are approximately 70 people at the company divided into several groups. My
group, consisting of 5 people, is responsible for BIFS. While I probably shouldn?t give
any names of anyone working here now, what the heck, I?m leaving here, so what can
they do ? sue me? Ha! I can tell you that GUTTWRENCH was part of my group until he
left last week, as was Richardphx. Others who have been part of this include early
bashers like Epiphonics and Simontaz. You may be interested to know that some
hypsters, such as Amato7 and BIFWATCHER, have also been part of the scam (more
on that later).

There are several companies engaged in the bashing business ? ours is not the only
one. However, I can tell you that not every basher in here is a paid basher. Having done
this for two years, I can usually tell who is a paid basher and who is merely someone
having a little fun. While unpaid bashers have a different motive than someone like me,
they can be unwilling accomplices to helping me achieve my ultimate goal and they also
spread rumor and confusion throughout a room, which also helps me.

What is that goal? Well, I am merely a cog in a much larger machine, so my bosses
never really explained the big picture to me, but I?d say essentially, GUTTWRENCH was
right. There are several companies who are quite familiar with SWOMI and who are
deathly afraid of it.

There are three types of bashers here at Franklin, Andrews, Kramer & Edelstein:
Advanced, Intermediate and Beginner. An Advanced-level basher (also known as a
Silver Tongued Devil) would spread false or misleading information about the company.
They would deal in facts, countering every longs post with articles, news reports and
opinion surveys that gave a negative impression about the company.

An Intermediate-level basher (also known as a Serpent) would try to weasel their way
into the confidence of longs and create doubt using rumor or innuendo.

Finally, a Beginner-level basher (also known as a Pitchfork) would attempt to create
confusion in the room by distracting other posters with satire, name calling and
pointless arguments. The idea was to make sure no serious discussion of the stock
could take place. A Pitchfork was usually a basher, but not always. Sometimes, we
would throw in a hypster Pitchfork such as Amato7 or BIFSWATCHER to create the
illusion of an argument going on. What was really funny (in a perverse way, I guess) was
that Amato7 and I sat next to each other, laughing the whole time.

I was a Pitchfork. I was paid a base wage of $12 an hour for my services. I was given a
$1 bonus for every post over 100 per day as well as a monthly bonus of $100 for every
penny the stock had dropped from the previous month. I was also paid a bonus for
bashing on weekends. While this may not sound like much, I made a decent, though
dishonorable, paycheck.

Each of us sat in a small half-cubicle in a cluster with our teammates. Each group
(usually five people) was made of three beginners (two who would bash and one who
would hype), one intermediate and one advanced level basher. Occasionally for some
of the hotter stocks, one of the beginners would be replaced by an intermediate
depending on how much the stock was rising. BIFS was a low-level stock, meaning it
got the 3-1-1 configuration.
Somehow, I get the feeling that JPACK2 may have worked for a basher company or
knows someone who does because the "Basher Handbook" he occasionally posts is
eerily similar to the one we actually use. While not a word-for-word match, I?d say it is
about 90 percent the same. We do have certain rules that we follow.

First, we have to develop a character and stay within that character in order to build a
"following." My character, "Firebird_1965," was a sarcastic, obnoxious supporter of free
speech, but only when it came to bashers.

Next, we had to follow certain guidelines on what we could say. We were urged to have
an "answer" to every long?s question, but we were to frame that answer in a way that
ridiculed the questioner for asking such a question. However, we were never to use
profanity or vulgarity because that would cause people to ignore us. We were to make
fun of people, but in a civil way. The idea was to get "play," i.e. ? reaction from other
posters. The more play we got, the more the room would be disrupted. Ignored posters
get no play. One exception would be the hypster ? since they were "defending" the
stock against our onslaught, they got a little more leeway. People would side with the
hypster because they thought he was real since he appeared to be on their side, but
was really on ours, setting us up to disrupt the room. Padelcars is quite good at this and
gets paid very well.

I?ve worked on BIFS, TSRG, MXII for about three months now. In addition to the Firebird_1965 alias,
I?ve used a few others on the BIFS and several other boards as well. I stuck with
Firebird_1965 because it was the one that got the most play from other posters.

In closing, I feel absolutely terrible about this. It?s just awful how I?ve been part of a scam
designed to cheat honest, hard-working people out of their investments all for the
benefit of a few wealthy people who already have enough money to last a lifetime.
These greedy people MUST be stopped. That?s why I?m posting this before I leave. I
want to make up for some of the damage I?ve done. I can?t live with this lie anymore. You
can?t imagine how hard it is to look at myself in the mirror each morning knowing my job
is to cheat and lie.

I have to go now, I?m too broken up to continue. I hope this confession can make up for
my sordid deeds; I would urge everyone who reads this to copy and repost it as many
times as you can. Only by shining the light of truth can we drive these rats back into the
darkness from whence they came. Believe me, they don?t want publicity.

Cuda
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CKEI&read=6768  

den gestrigen Verlauf, vor allem den Schluss als bulishes Signal.
Gegen Ende stieg der Kurs immer mehr obwohl die Zahl der Outstanding Shares sich
nicht in der Relation veränderte, wie die ganze Zeit zuvor. Für mich ein klares Zeichen
das es reelle Käufe waren und keine Eindeckungskäufe der Shorties.
Wenn dem so war dürfte das heute weiter gehen. Gaps sind jetzt ja wohl zu...

Auch wenn ich mir so das Marktumfeld ansehe, es scheint zu drehen aber vielleicht liege ich ja auch falsch... Wir werden sehen...

 

leider kann ich keine sternchen vergeben-

@sway - denke auch, das es heute kurzfristig hoch gehen könnte-
abpraller auf der 0,07 und dann die 0,08 gehalten - hm!

aber der abwärtstrend bei slglf ist m.m.n. noch nicht zu ende-
könnte auch nochmal auf die 0,05 gehen, da liegt nämlich die nächste
wirkliche unterstützungslinie -  das ist KEIN bashen- ist nur meine vermutung-

bei der aktien vermehrung wäre die mk bei einem kurs von 0,05usd immer noch
doppelt so hoch wie im spätherbst 05, als slglf sich zum höhenflug bereit machte.

gruß - kl.
 

Natürlich ! Was glaubt Ihr warum das gestern so abgegangen ist das sah ja schon teilweise nach Panik aus und ich meine gar nicht mal bei Share Holdern unseren Schlages sondern bei den Shorties... ? - Weil am 21 Juni die Gold Produktion beginnt und dann wird es eine sehr schwere Zeit für Shorties geben, irgendwann in diese Zeit könnten dann die News zu Green Fuel fallen und dann passiert was wir uns immer vorgestellt haben...

Stay cool....


 

waren aber nahe dran
Open Gaps
Direction Date range
up Jan-17-2006 0.059 to 0.0595
 

DIESES GAP WIRD IMMER OFFEN BLEIBEN UND UNS DARAN ERINNERN WOHER WIR KOMMEN UND WAS WIR DURCHMACHEN MUSSTEN. AMEN

 

sind wir doch alle mal vom unteren Gap aus
gestartet! AMEN  

Danke Grazer, welcome back !

keinen Augenblick zu spät...

 

...habe des Rest der silverados verkauft und in deBeira gesteckt. Muß die Verluste ja irgendwie aufholen.  

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Price  Support  Pivot Point  Resistance  

0.0790  0.0743  0.0793  0.0843  


alle zeichen stehen auf verkaufen-

könnte also sein, dass es bis zum wochenende noch einen
richtigen crash auf 0,05$ gibt und dann solltes abgehakt sein.
dann wär auch das minigap zu!
hab grad mal geschaut - auf der naked-shorting-liste steht slglf
jedenfalls noch nicht - auch wenn der kursverlauf dies vermuten läßt.

gruß - kl.



 

0.0800 0.081
Vol. 425,000
;-)
Na mal sehen was heute wird  

 

...verlieren auf einmal alle Leute an Silverado??
Ich seh bis auf Ausnahmen keinen Rohstofftitel der sich bei Wertverlusten von Kuofer -30%, Gold -30%, Silber -40% annähernd halten kann.
Und auf die vorgenannten Empfehlungen kann ich gerne verzichten. Die haben auch bei 0,17 $ die Aktie als strong buy eingestuft und wo liegen wir jetzt??
Also immer die Ruhe bewaren....  

 

Westerburg, 16. Juni 2006 (aktiencheck.de AG) - Der Goldpreis ist kräftig angestiegen. Auch die Kurse der Futures für Öl der Sorten Light Crude (leichtes US-Öl), Heating Oil sowie der führenden Nordsee-Sorte Brent Crude legten zu.

Verantwortlich für den Ölpreisanstieg ist die gedämpfte Hoffnung auf ein Ende des Atomkonflikts mit dem Iran. Nachdem der geistliche Führer Ayatollah Khamenei äußerte, die Atomenergie sei für sein Land wichtiger als die Ölexporte, kamen erneut Zweifel an der Kooperationsbereitschaft des Iran auf.

Zudem wächst bei den Anlegern die Angst vor einer erneute außergewöhnlich heftigen Hurrikan-Saison, die offiziell am 1. Juni begann. Im letzten Jahr hatten diese Stürme bedeutende Schäden verursacht und die Ölversorgung beeinträchtigt.

Der Kurs des Euro stieg bisher um 0,11 Prozent und steht nun bei 1,2656 Dollar. Die europäische Gemeinschaftswährung liegt damit über ihrem Kurs bei der Einführung der am 4. Januar 1999 von 1,1886 Dollar. Ein schwächerer Dollar macht das in US-Dollar angeschriebene Gold und Öl für Anleger aus anderen Währungsräumen billiger und damit attraktiver.

Feinunze Gold: 570,30 Dollar (+3,80 Dollar)
Feinunze Silber: 9,97 Dollar (+0,24 Dollar)
Light Crude: 69,50 Dollar (+0,36 Dollar)
Brent Crude: 68,46 Dollar (+0,02 Dollar)
Heating Oil (Heizöl): 2,02 Dollar (0,00 Dollar)

Die unterschiedlichen Preise werden durch die Qualität des Öls gerechtfertigt. Je höherwertiger das Öl ist, umso kostengünstiger ist seine Weiterverarbeitung.

 

http://www.b-tv.com/i/videos/Silveradogoldbtv.wmv  

 

Internet Zugang...

schätze mal der hier 16:43:35   43.150  0,059 wird später noch laut fluchen...

Jahrelang wurde versucht die Aktie zu tode zu shorten, mit allen Mitteln, legal oder illegal und nun stehen wir kurz vor einem Run den die Welt noch nicht gesehen hat und das Wichtgste dabei ist das es hier um Fundamentales geht.

Kann ja jeder gerne anderer Meinungt sein aber ich geben jedem der noch mit ein paar Aktien short ist den Tip sie so schnell als möglich zurückzugeben...

sonst ist der Arsch bald ab ;)

 

...ich fänd es nicht schade, wenn die Shorties die dicke Klatsche bekommen, immerhin haben sie uns lange genug weh getan, oder mehr Ausdauer abverlangt, als nötig gewesen wäre. :)  

es wird fast unmöglich werden sie komplett zurückzugeben. Es sind zu viele *lach*




 

aber das soll einfach mal nicht unser Problem sein *lacht*  

15:17:10 von 0,085 auf 0,0781 gedrückt
17:13:27 von 0,086 auf 0,0766
17:13:46 von 0,086 auf 0,0768
19:11:44 von 0,085 auf 0,0775 gedrückt  

...beeindruckender ist doch dass sich die Aktie immer gleich wieder auf dem alten Niveau wiederfindet. Hier wird mit allen Mitteln versucht den Kurs niedrig zu halten. Mal schauen wielange das noch funktioniert.
@SWay: bin immer noch dabei; sind glaub eine der wenigen Langinvestierten;-))  

ein. Man hat ja Geduld, auch wenns manchmal schwer fällt.  

"We will now, as briefly as possible, describe the sluice-boxes which carry the water and earth away from the mine, catch the gold, and conduct the tailings out of the miner’s way. A sufficient fall from the head to the bottom of the sluice-box is an all-important consideration. This grade varies from three inches, in twelve feet, where an abundant and cheap supply of water is at hand, to nine inches, in the same length of sluice-box, when the supply of water is limited. These grades may be considered as extremes. From four and a half to six inches fall in twelve feet is about the normal grade.

In arranging the grade of a sluice-box many important questions are involved. One of the greatest being the establishment of “under-currents.” These are large, flat boxes, generally varying from thirty to fifty feet in length, and from ten to twenty feet in width, and often containing a surface of from 500 to 1,000 square feet. These boxes are provided through their whole extent with riffles, as we have seen in the rocker, which catch the gold, or amalgam. The “under-current” is beside and a little below the main sluice-box. An opening from fifteen to eighteen inches in width is cut in the bottom of the sluice-box. Over this a frame-work of steel bars, about one inch square, and an inch apart, allows the fine particles of sand and metal to drop into a sloping box. This box has a pitch of about one inch in a foot. Through this box the finer materials reach the broad area of riffles, while the coarser gravel and cobble-stones are carried down in the main sluice-box. The water which flows into the “under-current” afterward unites with that in the sluice farther down from the mine. The cobbles and small boulders are next disposed of by “a grizzly,” or a grate of parallel bars which permits the finer particles to pass down through the sluice, while all stones are thrown out of the sluice altogether. If a “grizzly” is used, a drop of a few feet is necessary, as the material which passes through the grating must drop into a series of sluice-boxes underneath, and is thus carried farther from the mining ground. Should a precipice be along the line of sluice-boxes, a “grizzly” may be most profitably constructed, but otherwise the accumulation of refuse thus thrown out of the sluice soon prevents farther deposits. When a “grizzly” is made, and a precipice is at hand, a great amount of wear on the sluice-boxes below is prevented. Then a frame of iron bars, which may be condemned iron rails, is made, extending beneath the end of the higher sluice-box and above the drop-box, into which the finer matter falls. The bars of the frame-work are placed parallel to each other, towards the cliff, and about six inches apart. The whole frame slopes at an angle of about 30 towards the cliff, over which stones of more than six inches in diameter may be rolled, while strong wooden sides prevent their escape in any other direction.

A sluice is constructed of boards resting on strong sills, laid four feet apart. These sills are usually four inches by six, and for a double sluice, about fifteen feet long. The advantage of a double sluice is that the mining can be prosecuted at the same time that one of the sluice-boxes is “cleaned up.” The sluice-box is from four to six feet wide, and for the latter width, about three feet deep. The sides are supported by posts, four by five inches, and strongly braced. The floor and sides of the sluice-box are made of plank one and a half inches thick.

The paving of the sluice next requires attention. This is sometimes done with hard, flat rocks, standing on their edges, and so placed as to be least effected by the flow of water. These rocky pavements are from ten to twelve inches thick. Separate compartments, formed by pieces of stout plank permanently fixed across the bed of the sluice-box, from six to eight feet apart, prevent a great displacement of the rocky pavement, should any stone give way. Above the stone pavement the sides of the sluice-box are lined to the height of about a foot with two-inch plank, to save the real sluice from the wear of the gravel. Square blocks, about ten inches deep, are also used for pavement, especially where the sluice is in a tunnel, as the work of taking out the pavement, for the purpose of obtaining the gold there retained, is, in this way, greatly facilitated. These blocks are made of wood and fastened together in sections, with a space of an inch and a half, extending across the sluice, between the rows of blocks".

This type of mining is still being used in areas where the gold is mainly in nugget form.