Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. (LEH)

Der Nebel lichtet sich!!!  

"Bei den Kunden handelt es sich vor allem um institutionelle Anleger wie Hedgefonds."

Aber, abwarten !

Gruß an den ollen Teras!  

Jeman hat was bekommen?

Preferred and LEHMQ sollen was von Jahr 2012 bekommem: das ist das Statement by der Seite epiq11.com vorhanden.

Es wurde am 15. heraus gestellet

 

Ich habe einige mals bei dem vorheirigen Forum geschrieben, aber ich wurde gesperrt.Unglaublich.

Nach dem POR: Equities( Preferred plus LEHMQ ) sind die Bezitzer von der neuen Lehman Brothers ( LAMCO ) nach dem all Creditors werden in full bezhalt

Das ist was der POR sagt:

" Moreover, pursuant to the Plan, the holders of Equity Interest will maintain their economic interests in any residual assets of the Debtor after the satisfaction of all Allowed Claims, which economic interest will be nontransferable"

 

Ich hoffe wir werden alles was interesantes bekommen, von der neuen Lehman Brothers

Das ist ein anderer Satz vom POR:

" each holder of an Equity Interest ( OBS= one big share -old Preferred plus LEHMQ ) in LBHI may receive its share in any remaining assets of LBHI consistent with such holder s rights of payment existiting immediately prior to the Commencement Date ( 17.02.2012)"

 

3.6 Duties of the Trustees.  

 

(a) Reporting Duties.  

 

(i) Subject to definitive guidance  from the Internal Revenue Service or a court of competent jurisdiction to the  contrary (including the receipt by the Trustees of a private letter ruling if  the Trustees so request one, or the receipt of an adverse determination by the  Internal Revenue Service upon audit if not contested by the Trustees), the  Trustees shall file returns for the Plan Trust as a grantor trust pursuant to  Treasury Regulations Section 1.671-4(a). Within seventy-five (75) days following  the end of each calendar year or as soon as practicable thereafter, the Trustees  shall also annually send to each Beneficiary a separate statement setting forth  the holder’s share of items of income, gain, loss, deduction, or credit, if any,  and will instruct all such holders to report such items on their federal income  tax returns or to forward the appropriate information to the holders with  instructions to report such items on their federal income tax returns.  

 

(ii) Allocations of Plan Trust  taxable income shall be determined by reference to the manner in which an amount  of cash equal to such taxable income would be distributed (without regard to any  restrictions on distributions described herein) if, immediately prior to such  deemed distribution, the Plan Trust had distributed all of its other assets  (valued for this purpose at their tax book value) to the holders of the  Interests, taking into account all prior and concurrent distributions from the  Plan Trust. Similarly, taxable loss of the Plan Trust shall be allocated by  reference to the manner in which an economic loss would be borne immediately  after a liquidating distribution of the remaining assets of the Plan Trust. The  tax book value of the assets of the Plan Trust for this purpose shall equal  their fair market value on the date the Plan Trust was created or, if later, the  date such assets were acquired by the Plan Trust, adjusted in either case in  accordance with tax accounting principles prescribed by the IRC, the Treasury  Regulations and other applicable administrative and judicial authorities and  pronouncements.

 

http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/806085/...39/d267202dex101.htm

 

 

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-03-03/...l-avalanche-crushed-lehma  

Did JPM's CIO Intentionally And Maliciously Start The Margin Call  Avalanche That Crushed Lehman?
 

 

Ich hoffe, das wird meine Rente sein

Trauemen kostet nicht, aber  alle meinen LEHMQ haben mir ja viel gekostet

http://bankrupt.com/misc/LBHI_ContributionAgreement.pdf

 

4 Produckten von LEH sind allerding zu trading.Die 4 CTs

LEHNQ LHHMQ LEHLQ LEHKQ  die ich alle 4 beim kaufen bin

 

 

POR:

provided, however, that in the event that all Allowed Claims in LBHI Classes 1

through 11 have been satisfied in full in accordance with the Bankruptcy Code and the Plan, each

 

holder of an Equity Interest in LBHI may receive its share of any remaining assets of LBHI

 

consistent with such holder’s rights of payment existing immediately prior to the

 

Commencement Date. Unless otherwise determined by the Plan Administrator, on the date that

 

LBHI’s Chapter 11 Case is closed in accordance with Section 6.6 of the Plan, the Plan Trust

 

Stock issued pursuant to subsection (b) above shall be deemed cancelled and of no further force

 

and effect provided that such cancellation does not adversely impact the Debtors’ estates.

 

(d) Non-Transferable. The continuing rights of holders of Equity Interests

 

(including through their interest in the Plan Trust Stock or otherwise) shall be nontransferable

 

except by operation of law.

 

(c) Distributions. Each holder of an Equity Interest in LBHI (through their

 

interest in the new share of LBHI common stock or otherwise) shall neither receive nor retain

 

any Property of the Estate or direct interest in Property of the Estate of LBHI on account of such

 

Equity Interests;

 

 

(c) Distributions. Each holder of an Equity Interest in LBHI (through their

 

interest in the new share of LBHI common stock or otherwise) shall neither receive nor retain

 

any Property of the Estate or direct interest in Property of the Estate of LBHI on account of such

 

Equity Interests;

 

provided, however, that in the event that all Allowed Claims in LBHI Classes 1

through 11 have been satisfied in full in accordance with the Bankruptcy Code and the Plan, each

 

holder of an Equity Interest in LBHI may receive its share of any remaining assets of LBHI

 

consistent with such holder’s rights of payment existing immediately prior to the

 

Commencement Date. Unless otherwise determined by the Plan Administrator, on the date that

 

LBHI’s Chapter 11 Case is closed in accordance with Section 6.6 of the Plan, the Plan Trust

 

Stock issued pursuant to subsection (b) above shall be deemed cancelled and of no further force

 

and effect provided that such cancellation does not adversely impact the Debtors’ estates.

 

(d) Non-Transferable. The continuing rights of holders of Equity Interests

 

(including through their interest in the Plan Trust Stock or otherwise) shall be nontransferable

 

except by operation of law.

 

Leider habe ich nur stinknormale Common Escrows!
Wie sieht es bei denen mit Schönen und echten Euroscheinchen aus?
Gruß
Schladi1  

Die Common-LEHMQ sind Equities

Die Common sind dabei

 

Common= Equity Interest=LEHMQ=Nontransferable=Escrow=remaining assets=Dividend fuer 2012  ...usw

 

http://dm.epiq11.com/LBH/Project

Siehe ab Kapitel 62 "Escrow-Shares"!

Wer kann mir diesbezüglich noch was zum W8BEN sagen, mein Broker Consors hat mir am 5.3.2012 und später keine Formulare zugesendet und schrieb, dass von meiner Seite nichts unternommen werden muss?

Ich hatte Consors nach dem Kauf am Tag vor Kursaussetzung diesbezüglich wie bei WAMU angeschrieben!

Danke im Voraus, Poly  

Wie bekommen wir eine Distribution falls Geld übrig ist?
Müssen wir was unternehmen oder nen Clam machen 3. März oder 30.Sept. 2013?

Danke, Poly  

...wahrscheinlich ist es sinnlos. Aber probieren wir's nochmal. Schau mal hier rein:

http://www.wilmingtontrust.com/lehman/pdf/03_27_13_Lehman_Notice.pdf

Das ist eine Notice des indenture trustee für SENIOR Lehman bonds. Also wohlgemerkt, GLÄUBIGER von Lehman, und zwar jene, die in der Prioritätenliste der verschiedenen Gläubiger WEIT OBEN stehen. 

Wenn Du da reinguckst, siehst Du dass die bisher 9,8384 % ihrer Forderung erhalten hatten (Seite 2 mittig), und mit der letzten Distribution vom 27. März erhöht sich das auf 14,811 % (Seite 3 oben).

Insgesamt schätzen die Debtors dass diese senior Gläubiger 21,1 % am Ende insgesamt erhalten werden (Seite 1, fettgedruckt). Ja, vielleicht wird's etwas mehr. Vielleicht werdens 25, vielleicht werdens 30 %. 

Aber was zum Henker veranlasst einen (Ex-)AKTIONÄR, der erst was bekäme, wenn diese Gruppe 100 % + Zinsen hätte, wenn ZUSÄTZLICH alle subordinated debts, wenn alle Tochtergesellschaften debts, plus Zinsen, wenn alle preferred stock ausbezahlt wären, sich darüber Sorgen zu machen, dass er "was unternehmen muss"?

Glaub doch nicht JEDEN SCHEISS der hier verzapft wird. Meine Güte. Irgendwann muss es doch mal auch bei Dir soweit sein.

 

Jerri5

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Fuer das Jahr 2012, sollen Preferred and Common ( One Big Share) ein Statement bekommen, wie steht by der Seite epiq11.com.

LEH wird ein dividend fuers Jahr 2012 zahlen, und fuer alle Jahre solange die nicht heraus von der BK sind

Ich hab noch kein Geld bekommen.

Ich bin am abwarten, mir das Geld schicken.Nunmehr sind schon mehr als 30 Tagen vorbei, nach dem 15.March

3.6 Duties of the Trustees.

(a) Reporting Duties.

(i) Subject to definitive guidance from the Internal Revenue Service or a court of competent jurisdiction to the contrary (including the receipt by the Trustees of a private letter ruling if the Trustees so request one, or the receipt of an adverse determination by the Internal Revenue Service upon audit if not contested by the Trustees), the Trustees shall file returns for the Plan Trust as a grantor trust pursuant to Treasury Regulations Section 1.671-4(a). Within seventy-five (75) days following the end of each calendar year or as soon as practicable thereafter, the Trustees shall also annually send to each Beneficiary a separate statement setting forth the holder’s share of items of income, gain, loss, deduction, or credit, if any, and will instruct all such holders to report such items on their federal income tax returns or to forward the appropriate information to the holders with instructions to report such items on their federal income tax returns.

(ii) Allocations of Plan Trust taxable income shall be determined by reference to the manner in which an amount of cash equal to such taxable income would be distributed (without regard to any restrictions on distributions described herein) if, immediately prior to such deemed distribution, the Plan Trust had distributed all of its other assets (valued for this purpose at their tax book value) to the holders of the Interests, taking into account all prior and concurrent distributions from the Plan Trust. Similarly, taxable loss of the Plan Trust shall be allocated by reference to the manner in which an economic loss would be borne immediately after a liquidating distribution of the remaining assets of the Plan Trust. The tax book value of the assets of the Plan Trust for this purpose shall equal their fair market value on the date the Plan Trust was created or, if later, the date such assets were acquired by the Plan Trust, adjusted in either case in accordance with tax accounting principles prescribed by the IRC, the Treasury Regulations and other applicable administrative and judicial authorities and pronouncements.

ALLERDINGS, nachdem die Creditors alles bezhalt sind(3B sind geblieben), gehoeren die restlichen assets zu den equties, allles was uebrig ist( One Big Share).Die Creditors sind raus nachdem sie 3B mehr kriegen, warcheinlich bis September 2013.

Lamco, ist die neue Company, die angeblish in die Market kommen wird.

" Moreover, pursuant to the Plan, the holders of Equity Interest will maintain their economic interests in any residual assets of the Debtor after the satisfaction of all Allowed Claims, which economic interest will be nontransferable"  

 Was hat all das damit zu tun ob Ihr was kriegt??

 

Weder hier noch bei WAMU werden wir was kriegen, nicht war!

Du und Wir warten hier vergeblich, aber warum wartest Du eigentlich hier und überall?

Ist doch verrückt, findest Du nicht???  

By epiq11.com

"Case Information"

Plan Trust – Beneficiary and Grantor Statement

To see a copy of the Plan Trust – Beneficiary and Grantor Statement, please click here.

 

 

 

GRANTOR AND BENEFICIARY STATEMENT

 

TH FLOOR

 

 

NEW YORK, NY 10020

FOR THE TAX YEAR ENDED DECEMBER 31, 2012

 

 

 

Background

On December 6, 2011, the United States Bankruptcy Court for the Southern District of New York entered an order confirming the Modified Third Amended Joint Chapter 11 Plan of Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. ("LBHI") and its Affiliated Debtors (the "Plan"). On March 6, 2012 (the "Effective Date"), the Plan became effective.

 

The Plan provided for the creation of the Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. Plan Trust (the "LBHI Plan Trust"). Pursuant to the Plan, LBHI and certain individuals designated pursuant to the Plan as trustees (the "Trustees") entered into a trust agreement (the "Plan Trust Agreement"), effective as of March 6, 2012, establishing the LBHI Plan Trust.

 

 

 

Pursuant to the Plan, as of the Effective Date, all existing shares of common stock and preferred stock issued by LBHI were cancelled, and LBHI issued one new share of common stock (the "Plan Trust Stock") to the LBHI Plan Trust, which holds such share for the benefit of such former stockholders of LBHI consistent with their former relative priority and economic entitlements. The Plan Trust Stock comprises the sole asset of the LBHI Plan Trust, and the beneficial interests in the LBHI Plan Trust are nontransferable.

i.e., the Plan Trust Stock) in accordance with its former relative priority and economic entitlements as a stockholder.

 

 

 

 

LBHI Plan Trust Reporting

 

 

Pursuant to § 3.6(a)(i) of the Plan Trust Agreement, and the letter sent to each stockholder in August and September of 2012, within seventy-five (75) days following the end of each calendar year or as soon as practicable thereafter, the Trustees will annually furnish to each beneficiary a separate statement setting forth the holder’s share of items of income, gain, loss, deduction, or credit, if any, for U.S. federal income tax purposes by posting on our website, at www.lehman-docket.com and shall provide instructions to report such items on their federal income tax returns

U.S. Federal Income Tax Reporting

 

The following income, deductions, and credits are the income, deductions, and credits of the LBHI Plan Trust and, as to their allocable portion, to be reported on the U.S. federal income tax return of the grantors and beneficiaries, if required. All holders must report all allocable items on their U.S. federal income tax returns in accordance with relevant tax laws or forward the information to the holders with instructions to report such items on their U.S. federal income tax returns. Each grantor and beneficiary should consult with his or her tax professional to determine his or her individual reporting requirements.

 

Taxable income under §§ 671 through 678 of the Internal Revenue Code……… $0

 

Deductions applied to income above……………………………………………... $0

 

Credits applied to income above…………………………………………………. $0

 

Liquidating Trust Status

 

For U.S. federal income tax purposes, the LBHI Plan Trust is treated as a "liquidating trust" taxable as a "grantor trust" of which the former LBHI stockholders are regarded as the grantors. Each former stockholder of LBHI that is a beneficiary of the LBHI Plan Trust is treated for U.S. federal income tax purposes as a direct owner of the underlying assets of the LBHI Plan Trust (

 

 

LEHMAN BROTHERS HOLDINGS INC. PLAN TRUST

 

1271 AVENUE OF THE AMERICAS, 40

 

http://bankrupt.com/misc/LBHI_ContributionAgreement.pdf

 

(v) The capital stock or other equity interests or investment,

 

including marketable securities, in any Person, including the LBHI Subsidiaries,

 

or in any joint venture;

 

 

24. Pursuant to the Contribution Agreement, LBHI will transfer to LAMCO  
International all of LBHI’s equity interests in its international asset  management companies,
LBHI Services Ltd. and LBHI Estates Ltd. The  contribution of LBHI Estates Ltd., however, will
be subject to the requisite  regulatory approvals associated with such contribution. In the event
that  LBHI Estates Ltd. is not contributed at closing as a result of failure to obtain  requisite
regulatory approvals prior to such time, the parties will continue  to take all actions necessary to
obtain such approvals and, upon obtaining  such approvals, will take all actions necessary to
promptly consummate the  contribution of LBHI Estates Ltd. to LAMCO International.
Additionally, LBHI  may take additional action, with the consent of the Creditors’ Committee, to  
integrate into LAMCO International after the closing, certain asset  management staff and
resources located outside of the United States and the  United Kingdom.

 

 

Hier ist die Antwort von einem Mitarbeiter von LEH in Bezuhg auf die Auszahlung fuers Jahr 2012: ( ich werde bestimmt anrufen)

 

 

 ( ich werde bestimmt anrufen)

Wozu? Klappts mit dem Lesen nicht? Glaubst Du im Ernst die erzählen Dir was anderes als in dieser wahrlich ausführlichen FAQ steht? Punkte 62, 64, 65, 66 empfehle ich besonders zur Lektüre.

 

Bist du geaergert weil du LEHMQ verkaufst hast um WAMUQ zu kaufen?

Aber bitte, erstens, was hast du gelesen?

Ich rede gerade nur ueber die Auszahlung fuers 2012, wie bei der seite epi11.com steht.

Muss man andere Meinungen daueber haben?!das Dokument ist sehr klar: Dividend fuers Jahr 2012 fuer Preferred und LEHMQ ( OBS )

 

 

 Ich sags Dir nochmals, es gibt keine "dividend fürs Jahr 2012" für Equity aller Arten. In der Dir von "einem Mitarbeiter" anempfohlenen FAQ (die von Ende März 2013 datiert) steht übrigens x-fach drin, dass nicht zu erwarten ist, dass JEMALS irgendwas an Equity gezahlt werden wird. 

Was man sich anhand der vor kurzer Zeit verlinkten Zahlen auch selbst ausrechnen kann. 

Und nun kannst Du gerne weiterträumen. Angesichts der Cancellation ist es Dir ja ohnedies nicht mehr möglich, irgendwen zum Kauf zu verleiten. Und Poly hört Dir wohl auch noch in 10 Jahren zu.