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und dann ist es nicht mehr weit bis zu meinem einstiegskurs ! :-)))))))
gibt es hier noch hartgesottene die noch dabei sind ?
na dann langts eben heute für die 22$ ! :-))
mit der wird man nächstes jahr noch richtig freude haben !!
auf zu den 23. ;-))))
immer noch niemand dabei?
auf jeden fall werden wir da im neuen jahr noch ganz andere kurse sehen.
in diesem sinne einen
guten rutsch !
A123 Systems will provide Fisker Automotive with advanced automotive battery systems that combine high power and energy density with excellent safety and life performance -- characteristics required to meet Fisker's stringent technical specifications. Fisker Automotive and A123 will also collaborate on Fisker's Project Nina platform, with the intent of having A123 supply batteries for that vehicle based on meeting the automaker's performance and delivery requirements. Project Nina is expected to launch in 2012.
"Fisker Automotive selected A123 because of the company's ability to meet our performance needs and rapidly scale to our production volume," said Henrik Fisker, Chief Executive Officer of Fisker Automotive. "Fisker is committed to developing environmentally friendly cars that don't sacrifice style or performance. A123's technology will ensure the Karma delivers."
The multi-year agreement provides that A123 is the selected battery system supplier for the Fisker Karma. A123 plans to manufacture the cells and systems at its Livonia, Mich. facility with production slated to commence later this year.
"We believe the opportunity to supply batteries for Fisker's premium plug-in hybrid vehicles is further confirmation of the competitive advantages of A123's technology, including our ability to deliver on the critical safety, high power, useable energy and extended life requirements for PHEV applications," said David Vieau, President and Chief Executive Officer of A123 Systems. "A123 looks forward to a long partnership with Fisker Automotive that will help advance the future of transportation, improve fuel economy and reduce global CO(2) emissions."
A123: Analyst Bryce Dille set a $16 target on the battery maker, asserting that given expectations of better than 100% compounded sales growth through 2012, the stock looks cheap. He sees sales of $136.1 million this year, $311.3 million next year and $743.4 million in 2012, with the company turning profitable in 2012. Dille thinks the company’s lithium ion batteries offer an effective solution for hybrid and plug-in hybrid cars, heavy duty transportation and certain grid-storage applications.
Vielleicht besser als kurzfristig schnell steigende und dann wieder fallende Aktien ?
Auf jeden Fall ein Renner wenn das Auto elektrisch wird ...!
gruß sosix
a123 hat ein paar gute Vertraege abgeschlossen , SAIC , Fisker , auch Renault/Nissan und andere werden mit del Li/ION Batterien von A123 fahren . Die haben Patente die die Nachahmung anderer Hersteller verhindern .
Ich glaube das Obama seine Millionen Foerdergelder da sicher nicht in den Sand gesetzt hat ...!
Bei ein paar guten Neuigkeiten kann es da ganz schnell wieder nach oben gehen , die Boerse antizipiert , die Aktien werden steigen sobald die ersten Elektrofahrzeuge auf den Markt kommen oder sogar schon vorher ...?
Die Zukunft ist elektrisch , da bin ich sicher nachdem ich ein paar Tests gesehen habe , ( Elektrosmart haengt Maserati in der Beschleunigung ab !) Vielleicht wird das so wie der Wechsel von der Schallplatte zur CD ?
Auf jeden Fall bringt die neue Technik Geld und Arbeitsplaetze und darum geht es ja ! Umweltfreundlichkeit gibt's dann noch dazu ! Wie gesagt : "sales of $136.1 million this year, $311.3 million next year and $743.4 million in 2012 "... Wenn es dann mit den Aktien im gleichen Verhaeltniss nach oben geht , kann mann eigentlich damit nichts falsch machen !!
Also , entspannt zuruecklehnen und abwarten !
Gruss
Mass-market electric cars are coming. This isn't news. It'll be a long time before electric vehicle power completely replaces internal combustion, but with mileage requirements heading sharply up in coming years, the world's automakers are scrambling to get cleaner and greener technologies out of the labs and onto dealer lots.
The big obstacle to affordable, practical electric cars has long been battery technology. Vast resources have been thrown at this problem in recent years, and results are finally at hand. Nissan's all-electric Leaf should be on the market by the end of this year, with the electric version of Ford's Focus following a few months later.
But it's the batteries that will make these cars -- and many, many more -- possible at affordable prices. The state of Michigan has provided incentives for electric-car-battery manufacturers, hoping both to spur mass production and to become a center for battery technology. Already, several companies -- including Johnson Controls (NYSE: JCI), A123 Systems (Nasdaq: AONE), and Dow Chemical (NYSE: DOW), which is based in Midland -- are taking advantage of the offer to build battery plants in the state, and more investment is expected.
Living with an EV
A lot of work is being done on making these cars easy to live with, as well. AeroVironment (Nasdaq: AVAV), best known for its military work, has partnered with Nissan to create in-home car chargers that operate on 220-volt circuits, speeding up recharging time significantly. The chargers will be made to a new global standard, and should work with any brand of electric car. Installation costs should be around $2,200, the company says.
But there are still many questions about the (massive) demands that electric cars will make on the nation's energy grid. Charging an electric car will double many households' energy consumption, according to some estimates, and while some thought has been put into managing that energy consumption on a household level -- Ford and Microsoft (Nasdaq: MSFT) are pairing up to utilize the software giant's "Hohm" system in upcoming vehicles -- the larger-scale questions will be occupying a lot of brainpower as these cars move toward mass adoption.
das hört sich doch gut an.
mal schaun was der kurs dazu sagt ?!!!!!
na heute ist vielleicht nicht der passende tag aber jetzt sollte sich da ein bisschen was bewegen!!
oder was meinst du Sansai ?
gruß sosix
http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=AONE
da gibts realtimekurse !
anscheinend juckt die neue bewertung niemand !!! :-(((
kurs fällt !
hhhmmmmmmmmmmmm ??!!!
Am 11. nach Boersenschluss US , also nach 22 Uhr MEZ werden die Quartalszahlen von AONE vorgelegt .
Wenn dann auch nichts passiert , wuerde es mich wundern ?!
Verkaufen werde ich jedensfalls nicht mit einem Minus , da warte ich lieber etwas laenger ab .
Oel wird jedenfalls langfristig bestimmt nicht viel billiger , und die Oelfoerderung ist ja auch risikoreich wie man grade mal wieder sieht ...!
Nur keine Panik , es wird schon wieder ...!
Gruss
werde die zahlen abwarten , wobei ich nicht glaube , daß sich da viel tun wird ! aber um die 8 werde ich nochmal nachlegen !! .-))))))
wie gesagt , ich sehe das als laaaaaaaaaaaangzeit invest ! ;-)))
und mit dem öl hast du sicherlich auch recht. das wird nicht mehr billiger werden und die alternative muß her.
jetzt fehlen so in ein oder zwei jahren noch förderüprogrammen für elektroautos und dann knallts. wie seinerzeit als das mit solar war !
wir beide werden ganz vorne mit im boot sein ! hahahahaha
bis demnächst.
gruß sosix
aber das hat sie schon ein paarmal gemacht , aber leider nie gehalten !
mal schaun was heute passiert !
ich hoffe mal, daß ich mit meinen (ca. 8euronen einstieg ) nicht allzusehr daneben lag ! :-)))
aber wie gesagt schaut seeeeehr schön aus der chart : :-)))))))))))))
By John Rosevear
May 28, 2010
All of a sudden, the auto industry's movement toward electric vehicles (EVs) has become a stampede. Toyota's (NYSE: TM) plan to invest $50 million in Silicon Valley's Tesla Motors got a lot of attention when it was announced last week, but there's much more going on. This is clearly a moment when established global players, emerging-markets powers, and brand-new startups are all rushing in to what seems more and more likely to be a historic shift to electrified transportation.
They're rushing to claim more than just market share -- governments around the world are dishing out subsidies, hoping to speed the transition to a less-oil-dependent future. Here in the U.S., House and Senate leaders, accompanied by representatives from battery maker A123 Systems (Nasdaq: AONE) and start-up EV maker Bright Automotive, just introduced an $11 billion plan intended to speed the development of infrastructure needed to support the mass adoption of EVs.
As drafted, the bill would provide up to $1 billion for as many as eight "deployment communities" -- cities and regions that pledge to use the funds to establish public charging stations and other EV-specific infrastructure. Few such stations exist now, but they're seen as key to mass EV adoption, and their development -- along with other infrastructure, such as beefed-up power transmission networks -- is becoming a priority.
A global shift
The U.S. government has been offering alt-fuel-related incentives for years, but they're not alone. Japan's clean-car incentives program has driven Toyota's Prius to the top of that country's sales carts, and China is widely expected to offer incentives to clean-car buyers in the near future.
That latter expectation is probably behind the joint-venture deal that Mercedes-Benz's corporate parent Daimler (NYSE: DAI) just announced with Chinese battery-and-auto-maker BYD. The two companies are expected to release a jointly developed car in the near future, likely a Daimler-enhanced version of BYD's all-electric e6.
BYD, which is partly owned by Warren Buffet's Berkshire Hathaway (NYSE: BRK-B), has previously said that it will launch the e6 in the U.S. by the end of this year, joining a long list of automakers promising new EVs by late this year or early 2011.
A whole lot of Leafs
Speaking of EVs due in late 2010, Nissan (OTC: NSANY.PK) on Thursday announced a $1.7 billion investment in a new lithium-ion battery factory in Smyrna, Tenn. When it opens in 2012, the plant will be able to supply battery packs for up to 200,000 vehicles annually -- and right next door is an assembly plant that will be able to produce up to 150,000 all-electric Nissan Leafs a year.
While Nissan probably isn't expecting those kinds of volumes initially -- CEO Carlos Ghosn recently said that the U.S. allocation of 2011 Leafs is already sold out, at 13,000 -- 150,000 Leafs a year is an ambitious number. Nissan is clearly counting on volume to make a reasonable profit at its announced $33,000 price for the Leaf. And they're counting on more than that -- the size of the new battery plant suggests that the Leaf will be joined by other Nissan EVs in the not-too-distant future.
Nissan wasn't the only automaker announcing a battery-plant investment this week -- Ford (NYSE: F) and start-up CODA Motors announced smaller, but similar, investments in plants in Detroit and Ohio, respectively. CODA is a southern California-based start-up that is planning to bring a Chinese-made electric four-door sedan to the U.S. market. When? You guessed it -- late this year.
Whether CODA delivers or not, it's clear that EVs are about to hit the mainstream in a big way.
But will any of these cars be fun to drive?
Just in case you horsepower fiends were starting to despair, imagining a future of shoebox-sized cars that sound like sewing machines and look like they were designed by Birkenstock, take heart: According to a report in the U.K.'s Auto Express, Volkswagen's super-mega high-end Bugatti division -- builders of the $1-million-plus 250-mph-plus Veyron supercar, a leading over-the-top status symbol among car-mad hedge fund managers worldwide -- has built an 800 horsepower electric sports car prototype.
It is unclear whether the car, said by someone close to the project to have "absolutely unbelievable" acceleration, will ever see production -- but if it does, expect drop-dead styling, mind-blowing performance ... and a seven-figure price tag.
Gestern ging's 10% hoch nachdem die Nachricht kam , das Afghanistan voller Lithium ist ...!
Hoffentlich geht's so weiter ...!
Mal sehen ...
Noch guenstig zum Einsteigen , aber vielleicht nicht mehr lange , hoffe ich .
Noch ein Link zu einem neuen Auto , gepowered by A123 Batteries : http://karma.fiskerautomotive.com/
Nicht schlecht , oder ?
Haette selbst gerne so einen ...!
wenn die "obamapolitik" durchgezogen wird , haben wir gute aussichten auf erfolg.
und momentan sieht a123 recht "günstig" aus. werd mir das noch ein wenig anschauen und dann nochmal auffüllen !!!!
@ sansai.
ich denke wir sind auf dem richtigen weg.
ende des jahres so bei 10 euronen , damit wäre ich für dieses jahr schon mal zufrieden ! .-)))))))
Ich habe zu 12 Euros gekauft , dann noch mal bei 6,5 Euros nachgekauft , bin aber immer noch bei 10 Euros Einstandspreis , also noch kraeftig im - !!
Aber egal , ich meine , das es schon bald wieder ueber die 10 Euro marke geht ...!
Es ist einfach Zeit fuer einen Wechsel auf neue Energien , frueher oder spaeter kommt das !
Die Amis wollen nicht mehr vom , ( arabischen ) , Oel abhaengig sein , und die Chinesen favorisieren schon lange alternative Antriebe da die zunehmende Zahl von PKW's in China zu grosse Umweltbelastungen erzeugt !
Obama hat in seiner letzten Rede zu diesem Thema keinen Zweifel daran geklassen , wohin der Zug faehrt ...!
Gruss ,
sansai
This maker of advanced battery systems was initially a hot IPO, but perhaps came out just a bit too early. The company posted several lackluster quarters after going public, sending shares down from $28 to under $8. Shares have started to rebound in recent sessions back up $10 as investors start to realize they were judging the company's results while the electric car market has yet to really take off. But it will. Soon after the Nissan (NSANY.PK) Leaf is released in late 2010, a slew of additional electric cars will hit the market from companies like Mitsubishi (MSBHY), Smart, Chrysler/Fiat and perhaps BMW.
As investors start to re-focus on this potentially massive market, shares are likely to turn over a new leaf, perhaps back up above the $20 mark. The next few quarters will likely be lackluster for A123 Systems, so these shares will only benefit in a rallying market as investors once again focus on high-growth opportunities.
Die machen keinen Profit auf absehbare Zeit ! alles nur blabla ...! Die interessanten Auftraege sind an die Konkurrenten gegangen , von A123 gibt es nur Absichtserklaerungen die nichts wert sind !
Die naechsten Quartale werden genauso schlecht sein , vielleicht in 2011 oder 2012 , wenn man so lange durchhaelt !
Besser verkaufen oder hat noch einer Hoffnung das sich bald was aendert ?
aktuell 6,53€ all time low schon in sichtweite...
würd mir das erstmal bis 5,00€ von der seitenlinie anschauen.
Das scheint ein realistischer Kurs zu sein !
The Road Ahead
Ironically, if the prior three paragraphs really matter to you, this is probably not the right stock for you at this point. It would be nice to see improvement in shipments and margins, but these are very early days in A123's commercialization process. Right now, deals are arguably much more important than current revenue.
To that point, the news has been mixed lately. A123 has a relatively broad customer base and clients like Fisker and Navistar (NYSE:NAV) still seem to be on track to ramp up in 2011. Unfortunately, the company is seeing delays in grid orders (apparently an "order timing" issue) and the company is no longer working with Chrysler. On this later point, it looks like A123 walked away or refused to match a lower-priced bid from a rival - is this a sign of A123 prudently turning down self-destructive business, or a warning sign that A123's cost structure could be problematic?
The Bottom Line
I still like A123's technology, and I still think the company has a fighting chance to be a significant player in the emerging high-end battery market. It is clearly going to be a crowded market, though, and large companies like Sanyo (Nasdaq:SANYY), Panasonic (NYSE:OC), and Johnson Controls (NYSE:JCI) have ample R&D resources and long histories in the industrial battery markets. Apart from that, there are other emerging tech rivals like BYD (Nasdaq:BYDDY) and Ener1 (Nasdaq:HEV) that could steal a march on A123.
Electric-Car Component Makers Power Up
High petroleum prices will help to drive the market for electric storage devices that power electric vehicles. And two companies that produce the components for electric cars are worth watching.
Electric vehicles need to store electricity. Batteries -- think A123 -- and capacitors -- think Maxwell Technologies -- use different storage approaches.
A rechargeable battery uses reversible chemical reactions to store the energy. An EDLC (electric double layer capacitor) stores the electrons on the surface of its component material. A material which does not conduct electricity (a dielectric) separates the positive and negative charge layers. (Note that these types of capacitors are sometimes called ultracapacitors or supercapacitors. These terms refer to the relative energy density, and the total energy storage can range from tiny -- as in a cell phone -- to very large.)
For the transportation market, the significant parameters include cost, energy density (watt hours per kilogram, or W•h/kg), power density (a measure of time to charge), volumetric energy storage and lifetime (measured in charge discharge cycles).
The energy density of a lead acid battery ranges from about 30 to 40 W•h/kg. For a lithium ion battery, the energy density is on the order of 160 W•h/kg. This dramatic differential helps explain the use of lithium ion batteries in automobiles.
For the next few years, lithium ion batteries will supply the bulk of the power storage market for electric vehicles such as the Volt produced by General Motors. Ultracapacitors will serve as a complement in regenerative braking and to provide surges of power for acceleration and hill-climbing. Over several years, ultracapacitors may close the density gap with batteries.
A123 makes lithium ion batteries. The transportation sector accounts for about 50% of its product revenue. Products for the electric grid account for about 30%. The balance is for general commercial purposes. In its third-quarter report, A123 revealed that its transport customers are ramping at a slower pace than originally anticipated. A six-month delay is not critical, but the cash runway is getting shorter. A significant ramp in sales could alter the cash flow from negative to positive with a significant impact on the price-to-sales ratio.
Batteries require very long discharge/charge cycles (hours), vs. seconds for ultracapacitors. Batteries can be cycled only a few thousand times vs. several hundred thousand times for ultracapacitors. Batteries currently provide higher energy densities, but that advantage may disappear.
Maxwell Technologies produces capacitors for a number of industry sectors. It recently received a $1.7 million contract from DARPA (Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency) for an integrated system that combines an advanced capacitor, an advanced battery and an integrated management system. Additional contract phases could add $8 million. These contract amounts are significant when compared with Maxwell's R&D budget of about $15 million per year. Also significant is DARPA's approach to rapidly fielding technology. The organization is focused on getting technology into the hands of the leading developer as fast as practical. This contract could significantly affect Maxwell's top line within a few years.
EDLCs are used in regenerative braking systems to store energy and to reaccelerate the vehicle. More than 1,000 buses use EDLCs as the primary energy system. Because the charge range is typical less than 10 miles, these bus systems require recharge stations along the route.
Most EDLCs use activated carbon as component material for the storage of electric charge. Substantial improvement in the amount of surface area will come from other forms of carbon such as nano tubes, graphene, aero gels and carbides. Improvements in the dielectric layer will permit higher voltages. An improvement by a factor of 10 in energy density is likely in the commercial marketplace over the next few years. Ford has sponsored significant carbon nano tube work for EDLCs at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology.
Currently, commercial EDLCs are available with an energy density up to 30 W•h/kg. Laboratory demonstrations are already at three times that level.
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