habt ihr schön gelesen? Toshiba Gewinnwarnung

https://www.golem.de/news/...llen-insolvenzverfahren-1707-129173.html  

danke für die Info und Glückwunsch zum guten Timing und hohen zweistelligen Tagesgewinn!  

Problem bei denen ist, dass das morgen schon wieder weg sein kann ;-(

Blöd ist, dass Toshiba wohl überleben wird, aber die Speicher-Sparte versilbern muss.
Was bleibt da noch brauchbares übrig bei Toshiba? TV-Schirme wohl nicht.  

https://www.bloomberg.com/quote/6502:JP

wäre ja so schön wenns der SK wäre....  

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/...ut-partner-western-digital
 

Würden 2.41 Euro entsprechen.

Laut dem Bloomberg Bericht plant Toshiba den Bau einer neuen Fabrik zur Herstellung von Nand Flash Chips.

 

ich will euch da jetzt nicht wo reinziehen, aber ich hatte schon mal so einen Fall, und dann war der Preis nächsten Tag ähnlich dem "nachbörslichen", ich hab mal einige Calls gekauft, sicherheitshalber ;-)  

war keine gute Idee  

Der Kurs ist mit knapp 2 EUR so niedrig, dass man keinen Knock-out holen muss. Man kann direkt die Aktie kaufen und erspart sich zumindest die Risiken eines vorzeitigen Totalverlustes.  

hab auch keinen KO, gibt ja auch normale Optionsscheine  

Man sollte die (hohe) Volatilität der Toshiba-Aktie im Auge behalten. Die machen die Scheine teuer.  

...langsam sehen wir das Licht am Ende des Tunnels...

TOKYO (Reuters) - The auditor for Toshiba Corp (6502.T) is likely to sign off on the conglomerate's annual results while giving a thumbs down on the group's corporate governance during a series of crises, people with direct knowledge of the discussions said on Tuesday.

PricewaterhouseCoopers Aarata LLC will give a "qualified opinion" endorsing Toshiba's finances in the financial statement for the year ended in March, the two sources told Reuters.

That would end a period of limbo when the auditor withheld its opinion as it checked problems that bankrupted Toshiba's U.S. nuclear power engineering unit in December.

However, PwC will give an "adverse" statement on the company's internal controls in Thursday's results, they said.

Investors have feared an adverse statement could lead to a delisting of the 140-year-old company, complicating its ability to raise money for its cash-hungry memory-chip business and jeopardizing its competitiveness.

But with the highly unusual split decision, one source said they were of the opinion that "Toshiba can avoid delisting if it shows a path towards improving its internal controls."

Toshiba is already barred from issuing equity as a result of its 2015 accounting scandal.

The auditor could not be reached for comment outside business hours.

A Toshiba spokesman said, "We have not received the opinion from our auditor yet. We are in talks with the auditor to submit the financial statement by the deadline."

Since taking over as Toshiba's auditor in June last year, PwC has yet to endorse the firm's financial results. Sources have said it was querying whether Toshiba should have recognized multi-billion dollar losses at U.S. nuclear power engineering arm Westinghouse Electric Co before December.

A writedown at Westinghouse and other liabilities linked to the nuclear unit have pushed Toshiba into negative shareholders' equity of $5.2 billion, forcing it to put its prized memory chip unit up for sale.

A mixed review by PwC, by allowing it to avoid a delisting, may remove one less headache for Toshiba. But it still faces uncertainty as talks to sell the chip business have stalled, raising concerns over whether it can plug a multi-billion-dollar balance sheet hole left by the collapse of its U.S. nuclear power business.

A qualified opinion on a company's finances means the auditor has found minor problems with the books but is still broadly vouching for them. It is below the highest grade, an "unqualified opinion."

It is unusual to issue a qualified statement in Japan, said a source at the stock exchange. A split decision giving a qualified opinion on finances and adverse opinion on governance is almost unheard of, said this source and another at the Financial Services Agency regulator.
 

Was spricht eigentlich gegen einen Teilbörsengang der SpeicherSparte?

Würde ich begrüssen  

Ich denke das ist genau das was passieren wird.
Im Moment wird halt verhandelt wer das Ding später an die Börse bringen darf und wer welchen Anteil halten wird. Toshiba braucht das Geld aber sofort. Ich war überrascht wie schnell das mit Landis & Gyr über die Bühne ging, dachte das wäre ein wesentlich komplexerer Prozess...  

"Toshiba Revives Talks With Foxconn Over Chip Uni"

Also ich werd das Gefühl nicht los, dass die sich im Kreis drehen.
Langsam nervt es...  

die wollen gar nicht verkaufen und schinden Zeit.  

Sie wollen nicht verkaufen, brauchen aber das Geld.  

In Japan hat Toshiba mit 292.0 JPY = 2.27 EUR geschlossen. In Deutschland stehen sie bei  2.11/2.15 EUR. Wie kommt dieser Unterschied zustande?  

In Japan haben die Börsen gestern um 15h Ortszeit geschlossen, das entspricht ca 8h mitteleuropäischer Ortszeit.
Seit dem handeln die deutschen Börsen eigene Intradaykurse. Hinzu kommt, dass in Japan heute Feiertag ist und somit keine neuen Kurse gehandelt werden.  

ging das aber heute wieder ab.
Und ich Idiot bin nicht dabei (schnief...) :-(  

 

Interessanter Artikel im Handelsblatt, habt ihr sicher gesehen: http://www.handelsblatt.com/unternehmen/it-medien/...on/20182820.html

Man kann jetzt nur hoffen, dass Toshiba es gesch&%*n kriegt. Ist ja wirklich unglaublich. Ich werde das Ding durchsegeln und hoffe auf 3 EUR.

Allen Viel Erfolg  

 

Three big brokers upgrade outlook on Toshiba

Analysts recognise risk but expect shares to rise and hedge funds bet on miracle escape

          §Three brokers have upgraded their ratings of Toshiba for the first time since its finances were plunged into crisis last year, and a growing number of event-driven hedge funds are placing their bets on a miracle escape.

Though the new analyst notes acknowledge the high risk of the wager, all three suggest that a critical corner may have been turned. Toshiba’s negative shareholder equity, the heavy criticisms of its corporate governance and its risk of delisting from the Tokyo Stock Exchange all remain in place, but the existential threat has been slightly lifted, they say.

The notes from JPMorgan, CLSA and Citigroup partly reflect investors’ experience with Olympus, the Japanese manufacturer that was plunged into scandal in 2011 and narrowly avoided delisting. From their low that year to their peak in 2015, Olympus shares rose almost 1,000 per cent.

The analysts suggest that Toshiba’s prized chip business, which it is trying to sell to fill a $5bn hole in shareholder equity, could be worth 50 per cent more than the ¥2tn ($18.1bn) offered by a consortium of bidders led by a Japanese government-backed fund.

That is a bold view on the conglomerate whose future as a listed stock depends not just on selling all or part of the memory chip business but on convincing the TSE that its internal management controls are of a standard befitting a large, listed company.


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CLSA was first to lift its rating to “outperform” in June. Citi and JPMorgan slapped on “buy” recommendations following the release of Toshiba’s results on August 10, when the flash memory business recorded a better than expected performance and the company revised operating profit guidance upwardly for the current financial year.

A growing number of event-driven hedge funds now sit on Toshiba’s share register. Effissimo Capital Management, a fund in Singapore run by the former colleagues of Yoshiaki Murakami, Japan’s best known activist investor, became the top institutional holder when it declared a 9.4 per cent stake at the end of March.

David Einhorn’s Greenlight Capital took a new long position in Toshiba during the June quarter at an average price of ¥234.79 per share, and King Street Capital, an event-driven hedge fund in New York, reported a 7.1 per cent stake in the company this month.

Greenlight wrote in a note to investors that Toshiba is “worth closer to ¥400 per share”, one-third higher than where shares closed on August 16. “Investors will refocus on the significant margin and valuation upside at Toshiba once it has resolved current uncertainties,” it added.

Citi’s Kota Ezawa said in a note to clients the NAND memory business is generating “remarkably high profits” and is probably worth ¥3tn, or ¥1tn more than its current price tag. That could mean a “100 per cent sale may no longer be on the cards”, he noted. The broker puts the possibility of the company being delisted at less than 30 per cent.

Toshiba recorded negative shareholder equity for the financial year ended March 2017 because of a $6.3bn writedown related to cost overruns and delays at its Westinghouse US nuclear unit. The stock was demoted to the second section of the Tokyo Stock Exchange effective August 1. Listed companies that report two consecutive years of liabilities exceeding assets can be forcibly delisted, although the TSE retains discretion on such matters.

PwC Aarata, Toshiba’s auditor, last week signed off on the company’s accounts, but it also issued an “adverse opinion” on internal management controls.

Toshiba shares have gained 22 per cent since their demotion to the second section of the TSE at the start of the month, leaving them 6 per cent higher for 2017.

Brokers including Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley, Mitsubishi UFJ Morgan Stanley and Nomura have either restricted or suspended their coverage of the stock, according to Bloomberg.
 

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