Wer jetzt nicht bei PALM Inc. zugreift ...
- erstmalig wieder (fast) zum Ausgabepreis
- UMTS-Phantasie
- KGV von 24 !!
Oder wer sieht das anders ??
cu
hasenfuß
Auf lange sicht kann man mit Palm nicht viel falsch machen.
Gruß Bobger
1.5 PALM-Aktien kostenlos !!!
Man behält die 3Coms außerdem !
Ergo:
Beim aktuellen PALM-Kurs von 28,5 $ (Kurziele um die 70 ! $)
und einem 3Com-Kurs von 47,5 $ müßte 3Com auf 4,75 $ runter-
rauschen, damit man danach Miese macht (Vorausgesetzt man
glaubt an PALM).
Oder habe ich mich verrechnet ?
3COM strong buy!!
mfg hasenfuß
3Com sets dates for Palm share distribution
SANTA CLARA, Calif., May 8 (Reuters) - 3Com Corp
3Com currently owns 532 million shares, or about 94.3 percent, of Palm`s outstanding common stock. Palm was spun-off in an initial public offering of stock in March this year.
"Today`s announcement follows through on our commitment to spin-off our handheld business and increase shareholder value, as communicated last fall," Eric Benhamou, chief executive officer, said in a statement.
3Com said it received a ruling today from the U.S. Internal Revenue Service that the Palm distribution would be tax-free to shareholders.
The number of Palm common shares each 3Com shareholder will receive will be based on the number of outstanding 3Com shares on July 11. Based on roughly 351 million 3Com common shares outstanding as of April 24, 2000, the distribution ratio would be about 1.5 shares of Palm for every share of 3Com.
Jägermeister: Der Thread muß nach vorne! Palm geht ab (schneidet gerade die 38-Tage-Linie)
09.06.00 18:20
Grüße
JM
Kathrin: Warum "verschenkt" 3COM denn Palm-Aktien? Kann mir das jemand erklären? Dann steige
14.06.00 19:33
Danke schonmal vorweg
Kathrin
Kathrin: Kann mir niemand helfen? Ist doch eigentlich eine interessante Frage, oder? o.T.
14.06.00 20:40
Hat einer 'ne Ahnung, wie das steuerlich in D behandelt wird? Da könnte man ja ganz schön Spekuverluste nach dem 27.7 geltend machen!!!
Euer newbie
TheStreet.com - Silicon Valley
A Bumpy Road Ahead for Palm
First the market must digest 532 million shares. Then management has to deliver on its wireless promise.
By Adam Lashinsky
Silicon Valley Columnist
At 51 years of age, Carl Yankowski has taken a path to his current job, CEO of Palm (Nasdaq: PALM - news) , which would make most job-hopping dot-commers in their 20s and 30s look downright moss-encrusted.
Yankowski rolled into the top job at the maker of handheld devices just moments before its initial public offering in March, after a career in technology and marketing positions at Procter & Gamble (NYSE: PG - news) , Memorex , Pepsico (NYSE: PEP - news) , General Electric (NYSE: GE - news) , Cadbury Schweppes (NYSE: CSG - news) , Sony (NYSE: SNE - news) and Reebok International (RBK:NYSE).
Now Yankowski is set to take another kind of journey: navigating Palm parent 3Com's (Nasdaq: COMS - news) distribution of 94% of Palm's shares, the portion the network-equipment maker still owns. Because investors are awarding almost no value to 3Com other than the cash on its balance sheet, the pattern between now and the July 27 distribution almost certainly will be further erosion of Palm's shares (which closed Monday at 28 1/16, off their high of 165) and commensurate gains in 3Com, which stands at 49 5/16, down from its 52-week high of 119 3/4.
And when that financial event is all over, the well-traveled CEO will be forced to turn his attention once again to the panoply of challenges facing the undisputed leader in handheld devices. (Yankowski literally gets around: He belongs to 23 flying clubs around the world where he has plane-borrowing privileges.)
The competitive challenges facing Palm are numerous, from encroachment from competitors (and licensees) like Handspring and Sony, to the need to deliver on its promise to be an all-wireless company by year-end.
First, though, comes Wall Street's potentially painful digestion of the 532 million shares 3Com will feed to the market. Because of Palm's tiny float -- 26.5 million of 564.5 million shares outstanding -- investors haven't been able to place big bets against the richly valued company. Even at today's depressed levels, Palm still trades on a price-to-sales basis of a wireless-device company, a status it enjoys only in its press releases.
What's more, with 3Com shareholders set to receive 1.48 shares of Palm on July 27 for each 3Com share they hold on July 11, investors are valuing 3Com at about nothing. (The math: Palm shares at $28.06 times 1.48 plus $8 in 3Com cash equals $49.53; Shares of 3Com closed Monday at 49 5/16.)
Says Paul Sagawa, an analyst with Sanford Bernstein in New York: "The difference between the two will have to correlate by July 11. It will correlate in some combination of Palm going down and 3Com going up."
So what's a 3Com shareholder to do? Because he thinks Palm shares eventually are worth 40 on a fundamental basis and because an investor must hold 3Com shares on July 11 to get the distribution (or purchase the shares on the open market from someone who did), Sagawa advises investors to hold on to 3Com, which he sees dropping to about 15 after the distribution takes place. Between July 11 and July 27, the value of 3Com's shares -- minus Palm -- will be reflected in an "ex-dividend" class of stock with the symbol COMS V. 3Com maintains a primer on the complexities of the distribution on its Web site.
Obviously, Palm would have to fall for 3Com to be worth 15. If the company's future is bright, it looks like there are opportunities to get in at a lower level. Sagawa rates Palm and 3Com outperform, the highest rating at Sanford Bernstein. (Because it does no underwriting, Sanford Bernstein employs some of the least-conflicted analysts on Wall Street).
Sagawa, Yankowski and others believe there is plenty to like at Palm if it can live up to its hype. Even at its current valuation -- about nine times Merrill Lynch analyst William Crawford's calendar 2001 revenue projection of $1.8 billion -- Palm trades at a discount to potential wireless competitors Research in Motion (Nasdaq: RIMM - news) and Phone.com (Nasdaq: PHCM - news) . And because Palm has a commanding 70%-plus share of the market for handheld hardware, "Palm stands a greater chance of being a standard-setting platform than the others," says Sagawa.
CEO Yankowski dismisses RIM -- maker of the RIM pager and its Blackberry service -- as a "very excellent limited application" and a "one-trick company." But he is far from fulfilling his pledge of making every Palm device a wireless toy by year-end. Without the wireless cachet, Palm is just another nicely profitable hardware maker.
What if Palm can't make the wireless leap and gets stuck in the hardware world? Then its stock is really in for a jolt. Apply the multiple of 49 times forward earnings that Dell Computer (Nasdaq: DELL - news) enjoys to forecasts of Palm's earnings next year and add in its billion dollars in cash and one gets a stock price of 6. Of course, Palm's revenue is doubling year over year and Dell's is growing in the 30% range, but you get the idea. Already, add-ons are available to make Palms wireless, but sleek Palm Vs currently make up more than 50% of sales. Unlike the Palm VII, the Palm V doesn't come with a wireless modem.
The other opportunity in front of Palm is to boost its licensing of the Palm operating system. Licensees currently include Handspring (set to go public itself shortly) and Sony, which plans to offer a handheld device later this year. Yankowski predicts that two to three years out licensing and Internet services could account for 25% of Palm's revenue. Although licensing gross margins are about twice the low-40% gross margin of devices, the company collects about $15 for a license, compared with $200 for a handheld computer.
"If the company switches revenue models, I don't think that's what the Street has in terms of revenue growth," warns Crawford, the analyst with Merrill Lynch (a Palm underwriter), who rates the stock accumulate in the intermediate term and a buy in the long term. Crawford notes that "there's so much coming into the market that is a complete unknown. Still, I would bet Palm will be among the winners."
The biggest unknown, of course, is how investors will handle the hundreds of millions of Palm shares that will flood the market. To educate those investors, Palm executives will hit the road in mid-July to talk up the company.
Yankowski says his newly installed management team recently completed Palm's first-ever three-year plan, the details of which he declined to divulge.
First Palm's got to get through the next three to six weeks.
Kathrin: Hallo newbie, erstmal Danke für die Meldung. Mal gespannt, ob deren Matheaufgabe
14.06.00 21:26
Ciao
Kathrin
Kathrin: Besteuerung von Gratisaktien; habe etwas über die Versteuerung von Telekom-
15.06.00 08:42
Besteuerung Telekom-Gratisaktien
Wer die neuen Aktien aus der dritten Tranche bis zum 31.12.2001 hält, bekommt für jeweils zehn Aktien eine Aktie gratis, aber nicht steuerfrei.
Nach Statement des Bundesfinanzministeriums ist "der Wert der Bonusaktien
aus dem zweiten und jedem weiteren Börsengang...als Einnahme aus
Kapitalvermögen ...zu erfassen."
Dies bedeutet im Klartext, daß es sich hierbei um eine Sachdividende handelt, die wie andere Dividenden auch versteuert werden muß, nur mit dem
Unterschied, daß keine KESt abgezogen wird. Weil die Treuaktien zu den
Einnahmen aus Kapitalvermögen gehören, zählen sie beim Freistellungsauftrag
mit. Als die zweite T-Tranche im Juni vorigen Jahres gezeichnet werden konnte, war diese neue Steuerregelung noch nicht bekannt.
Vielleicht hat jemand eine andere Erkenntnis bezüglich 3COM. Bitte dann um entsprechendes Posting.
Gruß
Kathrin
Ich verfolge den Spin Off von Palm bei 3Com schon seit ein paar Monaten. Ich muß nun feststellen, daß die Sache immer verworener wird. Die Gratisaktien die 3Com verteilt sind in den USA steuerfrei. Wenn es in Deutschland eine Besteuerung der Palms gibt, ist man dann doch gleich zweimal der Dumme. Erstens muß man Steuern auf die pals bezahlen und des weiteren ist mit einem fallenden Kurs der 3Coms zu rechnen wenn der Palmanteil aus dem Kurs der 3Com heraus ist. Man hätte dann neben den zu zahlenden Steuern auch noch einen satten Kursverlust. Das würde das ganze Geschäft für die Deutschen Aktionäre zum Verlust machen. Wer kann dazu etwas genaueres sagen.
Gruß Bobger
Kathrin: Ich werde mich am Freitag im Büro zum Thema Versteuerung nochmal schlau machen. o.T.
21.06.00 16:06
Ich vermisse dein Posting zu der Entwicklung bei 3Com!!
Auf einem anderen Board konnte ich auch nicht viel Neues zu dem Thema finden, außer einem Posting das in die Richtung, daß jeder Aktionär von 3Com den Spinn OFF mit seinem Finanzamt selber abklären muß.
Hast du eine Ahnung warum der kurs von 3Com nicht so richtig in Fahrt kommt.
Am Freitag in NY starke Verluste.
Gruß Bobger
Wäre echt nett wenn jemand einem Anfänger Tipps geben würde
Thx Duckman