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Allerdings müsst Ihr dazu auf dem Yahoo-Board 1 star + unrated installieren, da die Shortseller in Panik sind und versuchen Euch diese wichtigen Informationen vorzuenthalten. Wenn es unbedingt sein muss, haben diese hauptamtlichen Manipulateure 1000 oder 10000 ID's, mit deren Hilfe sie Aktienboards, hier das Yahoo-Board, manipulieren. Leider unternimmt niemand etwas gegen die Kriminellen. Die institutionellen Investoren kennen sich mit den Kriminellen aus und halten daher inzwischen auch 95,4% der Aktien, private Investoren lassen sich zu ihrem Nachteil durch kriminelle Manipulationen von Aktienboards um ihre Chancen bringen. Für mich ist es nicht nachvollziebar, dass die SEC nichts unternimmt. Auf der anderen Seite muss man aber auch feststellen, dass man ohne die Aktivitäten dieser Kriminellen die Aktie nicht mehr so günstig kaufen könnte.
Videos posted on the ICG website include interviews with Mr. Buckley and ICG Managing Directors Kamal Advani, Doug Alexander, Paul Slaats and Mike Zisman, as well as the chief executives of ICG partner companies Channel Intelligence, Freeborders, GoIndustry, ICG Commerce, Investor Force, StarCite and WhiteFence.
No videos of Metastorm and Creditex are a sign of near monetizations. I believe we will see the S1-filing of Metastorm in the next days. Rating :
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Re: Monetization of Metastorm and Creditex is near 6-May-08 12:49 pm News from Metastorm
START-IT 125
Metastorm has been selected by the editors of START-IT magazine for its 2008 START-IT 125 listing, an annual review that compiles the most influential technology providers in the manufacturing space.
START-IT Names the Top 125 Manufacturing Technology Providers
Carol Stream, Ill. - March 14, 2008 - Today, START-IT magazine announced the companies named on the START-IT 125 for 2008. The START-IT 125 is a directory of the most influential technology providers in the manufacturing space. Companies are selected by the editors of START-IT and its editorial advisory board.
As technology has evolved and become more prominent in the manufacturing space, the companies providing the best technologies have also changed. Some have disappeared, some have updated to a new identity, but most have been altered in the ever-more aggressive trend of M&A (mergers and acquisitions).
While 800 companies were absorbed in 2006, the numbers for 2007 appear to be even higher, according to the Sand Hill Group. Solution providers are facing an unpredictable marketplace, making the START-IT Factbook a true snapshot of the manufacturing market today.
“Each year, we see more change in the manufacturing industry and the available technology, and each year the editors of START-IT must be more critical in examining the top 125 technology providers,” said Peggy Smedley, editorial director of START-IT. “The START-IT 125 lets our readers know what the best solutions are, who can provide them, and how they can help manufacturers improve business practices.” Rating :
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Re: Monetization of Metastorm and Creditex is near 6-May-08 12:51 pm The companies that made the START-IT 125 list for 2008 are:
ABAS Software, Karlsruhe, Germany; Activplant Corp., London, Ontario, Canada; Adobe Systems Inc., San Jose, Calif.; Agistix Inc., Redwood City, Calif.; AlarmPoint Systems, Pleasanton, Calif.; APL Logistics, Oakland, Calif.; Apriso Corp., Long Beach, Calif.; Aras Corp., Andover, Mass.; Arena Solutions Inc., Foster City, Calif.; Ariba Inc., Sunnyvale, Calif.; Aspen Technology Inc., Burlington, Mass.; Autodesk Inc., San Rafael, Calif.; Avanade Inc., Seattle, Wash.; Axeda Corp., Foxboro, Mass.; BAX Global Inc., Irvine, Calif.; BlueCielo ECM Solutions, Rijswijk, The Netherlands; Camstar Inc., Charlotte, N.C.; CDC Software, Atlanta, Ga.; Centric Software Inc., Campbell, Calif.; Cincom, Cincinnati, Ohio; Citect Pty. Ltd., Sydney, Australia; ClearOrbit Inc., Austin, Texas; Click Commerce Inc., Chicago, Ill.; CyberShift Inc., Parsippany, N.J.; Dassault Systémes, Suresnes, Cedex, France; Datacraft Solutions Inc., Durham, N.C.; DHL, Bonn, Germany; DSC Logistics, Des Plaines, Ill.; E2Open Inc., Redwood City, Calif.; Epicor Software, Irvine, Calif.; Exact Software Inc., Andover, Mass.; Exostar LLC, Herndon, Va.; GE Fanuc Automation Inc., Charlottesville, Va.; Glovia Intl. Inc., El Segundo, Calif.; GXS, Gaithersburg, Md.; HighJump Software, Eden Prairie, Minn.; Honeywell Process Solutions, Phoenix, Ariz.; HP, Palo Alto, Calif.; i2, Dallas, Texas; IBM Corp., Armonk, N.Y.; ICONICS Inc., Foxborough, Mass.; Infor Global Solutions, Alpharetta, Ga.; Inovis Inc., Alpharetta, Ga.; Intuit Inc., Mountain View, Calif.; Invensys PLC, London, U.K.; IQMS, Paso Robles, Calif.; John Galt Solutions Inc., Chicago, Ill.; Kronos Inc., Chelmsford, Mass.; LANSA Inc., Downers Grove, Ill.; Lantronix Inc., Irvine, Calif.; Lattice Technology Inc., San Francisco, Calif.; Lawson Software, St. Paul, Minn.; Logility, Atlanta, Ga.; Lombardi Software Inc., Austin, Texas; Management Dynamics, East Rutherford, N.J.; Manhattan Associates, Atlanta, Ga.; Matrikon Inc., Edmonton, Alta., Canada; MCA Solutions, Philadelphia, Pa.; Metastorm Inc., Baltimore, Md.; Microsoft Corp., Redmond, Wash.; Model N Inc., Redwood Shores, Calif.; MSC Software Corp., Santa Ana, Calif.; New Momentum, San Clemente, Calif.; Omnify Software, Andover, Mass.; Optiant Inc., Burlington, Mass.; Opto 22, Temecula, Calif.; Oracle Corp., Redwood Shores, Calif.; OSIsoft Inc., San Leandro, Calif.; Plexus Systems Inc., Auburn Hills, Mich.; Preactor International, Wiltshire, U.K.; PTC, Needham, Mass.; QAD Inc., Santa Barbara, Calif.; Questra Corp., Redwood City, Calif.; Ramco Systems, Lawrenceville, N.J.; Red Prairie Corp., Waukesha, Wis.; Right Hemisphere, Pleasanton, Calif.; RuleStream Corp., Wakefield, Mass.; Ryder, Miami, Fla.; Sage Software, Beaverton, Ore.; Salesforce.com Inc., San Francisco, Calif.; SAP AG, Waldorf, Germany; SAS Institute Inc., Cary, N.C.; SAT Corp., Houston, Texas; Savvion Inc., Santa Clara, Calif.; Siemens Energy & Automation Inc., Alpharetta, Ga.; Silvon Software Inc., Westmont, Ill.; Smart Software Inc., Belmont, Mass.; SoftBrands, Minneapolis, Minn.; SolidWorks Corp., Concord, Mass.; Sterling Commerce, Dublin, Ohio; Sun Microsystems Inc., Santa Clara, Calif.; Surfware Inc., Westlake Village, Calif.; SYSPRO, Costa Mesa, Calif.; Technology Group International, Toledo, Ohio; Terra Technology, Norwalk, Conn.; TIBCO Software Inc., Palo Alto, Calif.; UPS, Atlanta, Ga.; Visiprise Inc., Alpharetta, Ga.; Vormittag Associates Inc. (VAI), Ronkonkoma, N.Y.; Wonderware
Sentiment : Strong Buy
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Vermutlich fangen die ersten nach einer Verdreifachung des Kurses bei $30 zu kaufen an. Vielleicht erinnert sich noch der eine oder andere, dass Kaufen nachdem sich Aktien verdreifacht haben, von manchen Dummschwätzern dann als technische Analyse bezeichnet wird - weil sie sonst nichts können und vermutlich auch nichts dazulernen können, wie z.B. der Arnie vom comdirect-Board.
The result will be an jump of the share-price of Internet Capital. Small short should cover before this will happen (big idiots can't without a big jump) and investors, too.
Sentiment : Strong Buy
Risk – APR-2008
Creditex co-founder and CEO Sunil Hirani discusses volume growth and the industry's increased need to attend to operations issues. Hirani acknowledged that the industry is working harder than ever on resolving the issues saying that more effort is required now because "... volumes have increased significantly. Second, the issue is more relevant because in volatile markets, the cost of not acknowledging and confirming trades close to the trade date is greater. Hence, the potential loss is much greater."
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Re: Very good news from Creditex: Volumes have increased significantly. 24 second(s) ago Revenues of Creditex in 2008 will be a quarter billion and Creditex is high profitable.
Worth of Creditex is about two billion. Internet Capital owns 15% of Creditex = 300 million.
Results of the first quarter 8-May-08 08:39 am in line. Revenues of ICGCommerce now 16 million. Rating :
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Re: Results of the first quarter 24 minutes ago Buy from the idiots, who don't understand, that an incubator can only have a net income, when a company were sold - in this one or two quarters in a year, the net income is big. I believe, we will have a big third quarter, when the monetization of Metastorm and Creditex will start. Maybe one of the two monetization is the second quarter. Rating :
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Re: Results of the first quarter 20 minutes ago Only problem of the quarter-report, was the growth of the core-companies in total in the first quarter. This was a stagnation, but when we compare with the first quarter of 2007 an increase of 29%. But four of the eight core-companies has growth in the first quarter 2008, too: ICGCommerce, Channelintelligence, Freeborders and Whitefence. Rating :
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Re: Results of the first quarter 5 minutes ago Best of all is the strong growth of ICGCommerce. ICGCommerce and Investorfore are the only consolidated companies. Because Investorforce is after a sale of parts of the activites without revenues any revenues and all 16 million are revenues of ICGCommerce - growth of 2 million against the last quarter. But Investorsforce has expenses and therefore the small loss of $ 99,000 of both companies have the result, that ICGCommerce had a net income in the first quarter.
Aggregate Core Company Information: (1)
Aggregate Revenue $ 46,953 $ 49,363 $ 58,848 $ 60,753 $ 60,426
Aggregate EBITDA (loss) $ (6,540 ) $ (6,526 ) $ (4,792 ) $ (9,545 ) $ (10,619 )
Aggregate Net Loss $ (8,920 ) $ (8,940 ) $ (7,622 ) $ (14,866 ) $ (15,004 )
Components of Aggregate Core Company Information
Consolidated Core Companies (Ownership %): (2)
Revenue $ 11,782 $ 12,520 $ 14,559 $ 14,062 $ 16,022
ICG Commerce Holdings, Inc. (65%)
Investor Force Holdings, Inc. (80%) Expenses other than interest, taxes, depreciation and amortization
(13,407 ) (14,009 ) (14,350 ) (13,636 ) (15,864 )
EBITDA (loss) $ (1,625 ) $ (1,489 ) $ 209 $ 426 $ 158
Interest 118 90 84 87 58
Taxes - - - (318 ) (28 )
Depreciation/ Amortization
(326 ) (347 ) (364 ) (335 ) (287 )
Net loss $ (1,833 ) $ (1,746 ) $ (71 ) $ (140 ) $ (99 ) Rating :
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Re: Results of the first quarter 5 second(s) ago If the growth of revenues of ICGCommerce will continue, we will see after 16 million in first quarter
18 million in the second quarter
20 million in third quarter
22 million on the fourth quarter.
If we add the four amounts, the result of revenues for 2008 = 76 million.
By a low multiple of only 4, the worth of ICGCommerce = 304 million. 65% of ICGCommerce = 200 million.
If we take a mutliple of 5, the worth of 65% of ICGCommerce = a quarter billion. Rating :
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Re: Results of the first quarter 4 minutes ago I bought 1100 shares yesterday under 10.0.
Long term look pretty good..
START-IT 125
Metastorm has been selected by the editors of START-IT magazine for its 2008 START-IT 125 listing, an annual review that compiles the most influential technology providers in the manufacturing space.
START-IT Names the Top 125 Manufacturing Technology Providers
Carol Stream, Ill. - March 14, 2008 - Today, START-IT magazine announced the companies named on the START-IT 125 for 2008. The START-IT 125 is a directory of the most influential technology providers in the manufacturing space. Companies are selected by the editors of START-IT and its editorial advisory board.
As technology has evolved and become more prominent in the manufacturing space, the companies providing the best technologies have also changed. Some have disappeared, some have updated to a new identity, but most have been altered in the ever-more aggressive trend of M&A (mergers and acquisitions).
While 800 companies were absorbed in 2006, the numbers for 2007 appear to be even higher, according to the Sand Hill Group. Solution providers are facing an unpredictable marketplace, making the START-IT Factbook a true snapshot of the manufacturing market today.
“Each year, we see more change in the manufacturing industry and the available technology, and each year the editors of START-IT must be more critical in examining the top 125 technology providers,” said Peggy Smedley, editorial director of START-IT. “The START-IT 125 lets our readers know what the best solutions are, who can provide them, and how they can help manufacturers improve business practices.” Rating :
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Re: Monetization of Metastorm and Creditex is near 6-May-08 12:51 pm The companies that made the START-IT 125 list for 2008 are:
ABAS Software, Karlsruhe, Germany; Activplant Corp., London, Ontario, Canada; Adobe Systems Inc., San Jose, Calif.; Agistix Inc., Redwood City, Calif.; AlarmPoint Systems, Pleasanton, Calif.; APL Logistics, Oakland, Calif.; Apriso Corp., Long Beach, Calif.; Aras Corp., Andover, Mass.; Arena Solutions Inc., Foster City, Calif.; Ariba Inc., Sunnyvale, Calif.; Aspen Technology Inc., Burlington, Mass.; Autodesk Inc., San Rafael, Calif.; Avanade Inc., Seattle, Wash.; Axeda Corp., Foxboro, Mass.; BAX Global Inc., Irvine, Calif.; BlueCielo ECM Solutions, Rijswijk, The Netherlands; Camstar Inc., Charlotte, N.C.; CDC Software, Atlanta, Ga.; Centric Software Inc., Campbell, Calif.; Cincom, Cincinnati, Ohio; Citect Pty. Ltd., Sydney, Australia; ClearOrbit Inc., Austin, Texas; Click Commerce Inc., Chicago, Ill.; CyberShift Inc., Parsippany, N.J.; Dassault Systémes, Suresnes, Cedex, France; Datacraft Solutions Inc., Durham, N.C.; DHL, Bonn, Germany; DSC Logistics, Des Plaines, Ill.; E2Open Inc., Redwood City, Calif.; Epicor Software, Irvine, Calif.; Exact Software Inc., Andover, Mass.; Exostar LLC, Herndon, Va.; GE Fanuc Automation Inc., Charlottesville, Va.; Glovia Intl. Inc., El Segundo, Calif.; GXS, Gaithersburg, Md.; HighJump Software, Eden Prairie, Minn.; Honeywell Process Solutions, Phoenix, Ariz.; HP, Palo Alto, Calif.; i2, Dallas, Texas; IBM Corp., Armonk, N.Y.; ICONICS Inc., Foxborough, Mass.; Infor Global Solutions, Alpharetta, Ga.; Inovis Inc., Alpharetta, Ga.; Intuit Inc., Mountain View, Calif.; Invensys PLC, London, U.K.; IQMS, Paso Robles, Calif.; John Galt Solutions Inc., Chicago, Ill.; Kronos Inc., Chelmsford, Mass.; LANSA Inc., Downers Grove, Ill.; Lantronix Inc., Irvine, Calif.; Lattice Technology Inc., San Francisco, Calif.; Lawson Software, St. Paul, Minn.; Logility, Atlanta, Ga.; Lombardi Software Inc., Austin, Texas; Management Dynamics, East Rutherford, N.J.; Manhattan Associates, Atlanta, Ga.; Matrikon Inc., Edmonton, Alta., Canada; MCA Solutions, Philadelphia, Pa.; Metastorm Inc., Baltimore, Md.; Microsoft Corp., Redmond, Wash.; Model N Inc., Redwood Shores, Calif.; MSC Software Corp., Santa Ana, Calif.; New Momentum, San Clemente, Calif.; Omnify Software, Andover, Mass.; Optiant Inc., Burlington, Mass.; Opto 22, Temecula, Calif.; Oracle Corp., Redwood Shores, Calif.; OSIsoft Inc., San Leandro, Calif.; Plexus Systems Inc., Auburn Hills, Mich.; Preactor International, Wiltshire, U.K.; PTC, Needham, Mass.; QAD Inc., Santa Barbara, Calif.; Questra Corp., Redwood City, Calif.; Ramco Systems, Lawrenceville, N.J.; Red Prairie Corp., Waukesha, Wis.; Right Hemisphere, Pleasanton, Calif.; RuleStream Corp., Wakefield, Mass.; Ryder, Miami, Fla.; Sage Software, Beaverton, Ore.; Salesforce.com Inc., San Francisco, Calif.; SAP AG, Waldorf, Germany; SAS Institute Inc., Cary, N.C.; SAT Corp., Houston, Texas; Savvion Inc., Santa Clara, Calif.; Siemens Energy & Automation Inc., Alpharetta, Ga.; Silvon Software Inc., Westmont, Ill.; Smart Software Inc., Belmont, Mass.; SoftBrands, Minneapolis, Minn.; SolidWorks Corp., Concord, Mass.; Sterling Commerce, Dublin, Ohio; Sun Microsystems Inc., Santa Clara, Calif.; Surfware Inc., Westlake Village, Calif.; SYSPRO, Costa Mesa, Calif.; Technology Group International, Toledo, Ohio; Terra Technology, Norwalk, Conn.; TIBCO Software Inc., Palo Alto, Calif.; UPS, Atlanta, Ga.; Visiprise Inc., Alpharetta, Ga.; Vormittag Associates Inc. (VAI), Ronkonkoma, N.Y.; Wonderware
Install 1 star + unrated to read about the partner companies 12 minutes ago Criminal not legal naked shortsellers and falificators (remember the idiot, who falsificate the name of Flankenking with "i" for "l" manipulate the message-board. But is the a sign of the big fears before the comming shortsquezze. Rating :
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Re: Install 1 star + unrated to read about the partner companies 8 minutes ago An important reason for the big fear of the criminals are the very good news about Creditex, which wasn't part of the quarter-report, because Creditex isn't a core-company - Internet Capital owns only 15%, but with a big value.
Very good news from Creditex: Volumes have increased significantly.
Creditex co-founder and CEO Sunil Hirani discusses volume growth and the industry's increased need to attend to operations issues. Hirani acknowledged that the industry is working harder than ever on resolving the issues saying that more effort is required now because "... volumes have increased significantly. Second, the issue is more relevant because in volatile markets, the cost of not acknowledging and confirming trades close to the trade date is greater. Hence, the potential loss is much greater."
Revenues of Creditex in 2008 will be a quarter billion and Creditex is high profitable.
Worth of Creditex is about two billion. Internet Capital owns 15% of Creditex = 300 million. Rating :
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Re: Install 1 star + unrated to read about the partner companies 5 second(s) ago Another important reason is the high value of ICGCommerce:
About ICGCommerce in the quarter-report:
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Leading procurement services provider
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Strong first quarter performance
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Signed a significant, multi-year, multi-million dollar BPO agreement with Hertz Corporation
– One of ICGC’s largest contracts to date
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Engages ICGC to manage Hertz’s indirect spend across North America and Europe
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Selected in a highly competitive process
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Expanded relationships with several existing clients including a professional services company and a large software company
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Entering the second quarter with a strong pipeline of customer prospects
Best of all is the strong growth of ICGCommerce. ICGCommerce and Investorfore are the only consolidated companies. Because Investorforce is after a sale of parts of the activites without revenues any revenues and all 16 million are revenues of ICGCommerce - growth of 2 million against the last quarter. But Investorsforce has expenses and therefore the small loss of $ 99,000 of both companies have the result, that ICGCommerce had a net income in the first quarter.
Aggregate Core Company Information: (1)
Aggregate Revenue $ 46,953 $ 49,363 $ 58,848 $ 60,753 $ 60,426
Aggregate EBITDA (loss) $ (6,540 ) $ (6,526 ) $ (4,792 ) $ (9,545 ) $ (10,619 )
Aggregate Net Loss $ (8,920 ) $ (8,940 ) $ (7,622 ) $ (14,866 ) $ (15,004 )
Components of Aggregate Core Company Information
Consolidated Core Companies (Ownership %): (2)
Revenue $ 11,782 $ 12,520 $ 14,559 $ 14,062 $ 16,022
ICG Commerce Holdings, Inc. (65%)
Investor Force Holdings, Inc. (80%) Expenses other than interest, taxes, depreciation and amortization
(13,407 ) (14,009 ) (14,350 ) (13,636 ) (15,864 )
EBITDA (loss) $ (1,625 ) $ (1,489 ) $ 209 $ 426 $ 158
Interest 118 90 84 87 58
Taxes - - - (318 ) (28 )
Depreciation/ Amortization
(326 ) (347 ) (364 ) (335 ) (287 )
Net loss $ (1,833 ) $ (1,746 ) $ (71 ) $ (140 ) $ (99 )
If the growth of revenues of ICGCommerce will continue, we will see after 16 million in first quarter
18 million in the second quarter
20 million in third quarter
22 million on the fourth quarter.
If we add the four amounts, the result of revenues for 2008 = 76 million.
By a low multiple of only 4, the worth of ICGCommerce = 304 million. 65% of ICGCommerce = 200 million.
If we take a mutliple of 5, the worth of 65% of ICGCommerce = a quarter billion
65% of ICGCommerce
33% of Starcite
32% of Freeborders
32% of Metastorm
48% of Channelintelligence
35% of Whitefence
46% of Vcommerce
9% of Anthem Venture
5% of Emptoris
and other.
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Re: 300 million and cash/securities of 130 million higher than market-cap 3 second(s) ago The 300 million are from the 15% of Creditex:
Very good news about Creditex but they wasn't part of the quarter-report, because Creditex isn't a core-company - Internet Capital owns only 15%, but with a big value.
Very good news from Creditex: Volumes have increased significantly.
Creditex co-founder and CEO Sunil Hirani discusses volume growth and the industry's increased need to attend to operations issues. Hirani acknowledged that the industry is working harder than ever on resolving the issues saying that more effort is required now because "... volumes have increased significantly. Second, the issue is more relevant because in volatile markets, the cost of not acknowledging and confirming trades close to the trade date is greater. Hence, the potential loss is much greater."
Revenues of Creditex in 2008 will be a quarter billion and Creditex is high profitable.
Worth of Creditex is about two billion. Internet Capital owns 15% of Creditex = 300 million.
Über die Qualitäten von Metastorm könnte Ihr am besten bei den Marktforschern von IDC nachlesen:
http://www.metastorm.com/library/reports/...etastorm_BPMS_Profile.pdf
Nicht ganz korrekt ist in diesem Report allerdings die Umsatzzahl von 60 Millionen Dollar für 2007. Im dritten und vierten Quartal hat Metastorm einen großere Unternehmen und zwei kleinere hinzugkauft, die offensichtlich in den 60 Millionen noch nicht drinstecken, denn der CEO nach den Unternehmenkäufen den Umsatz für 2007 ziemlich genau beziffert, und zwar auf 72 bis 73 Millionen. Nach mehrfachen Aussagen des CEO's ist für 2008 ein Umsatz von 100 Millionen geplant (kleiner Aquisitationen eingeschlossen). Das läuft auf eine IPO-Marktkapitalisierung von 400-500 Millionen heraus. Internet Capital hält 32%, was einen Wert von 128 bis 160 Millionen sichtbar werden lässt. Für einen Wert mit einer Marktkapitalisierung von 400 Millionen, von denen durch Kasse/Wertpapiere schon 130 Millionen abgedeckt sind, ist das schon ein wichtiges Ereignis und die kriminelle Energie schaffende Panik der Shortseller kann man nachvollziehen.
Leading provider of online home services transactions
• Increased revenue by 70% and increased new customer signings 30% plus year
over year
• Signed 43 new contracts, consisting of 31 new service providers and 12 new
channel partners
• Product and service offerings continued to expand, including the addition of
Starz premium movie service, new credit card offerings, and new energy
companies such as Ohio Natural Gas, NStar, Accent, Commerce and
MXenergy
• New channel partner initiatives were launched with EchoStar and Vonage,
resulting in a significant new flow of customers and revenue
• Increase of the commission rates received from a number of providers,
including a few of their top five revenue producers
For all, who want to double and tripple 1 minute ago What does a market-cap of only 373 million say?
If we subtract the 130 million cash = 243 million.
243 million = Each ownership of the BIG FIVE (65% of ICGCommerce, 33% of Starcite, 32% of Metatstorm, 15% of Creditex and 32% of Freeborders) has in the average only a worth of 38 milion (in the addition 190 million) and each ownership in the NEXT FIVE (48% of Channelintelligence, 35% of Whitefence, 48% of Vcommerce, 9% of Anthem Venture and 5% of Emptoris) has only a worth of 11 million (in the addition 55 million).
This undervalue is idiotic, because the ownership have in the average the tripple worth and this is only the result of big not naked shortselling, which will end a shortsquezze in the next days, when the S1-filling about the ipo of Metastorm will come.
http://www.freeborders.com/China-In-The-News.html
Der momentane Wert ist schwierig zu schätzen. Vor zwei Jahren sah ihn der damalige CEO schon bei einer Milliarde, was ich als zu hoch hielt - aber irgendwo im Bereich zwischen 400 und 800 Millionen dürften wir heute liegen. Dass daraus auf Sicht von fünf Jahren auch fünf Milliarden werden können, schließe ich nicht aus. Das hat vor zwei Jahren wohl auch den CEO zu seiner mutigen Prognosen bewogen, allerdings bezweifele ich etwas, dass die Märkte so weit antizipieren. Und 32% von einer halben Milliarde Wert heute, sind für Internet Capital immerhin auch 160 Millionen - nicht schlecht bei einer Marktkapitalisierung von 373 Millionen und 130 Millionen Cash/Wertpapiere und Schuldenfreiheit.
Internet Capital hält 32%.
Geht daher auf Goolge und gebt ein:
Creditex,2008
Klickt dann auf den folgenden fünften Eintrag:
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Dort erfolgt die Bestätigung, dass meine Schätzungen über den Wert von Creditex in Höhe von zwei Milliarden eher noch zu tief gegriffen ist. Und Internet Capital hält hier 15% = 300 Millionen. Zusammen mit der Cash/Wertpapiere von 130 Millionen ist das schon mehr als die Marktkapitalisierung. Und die restlichen 15 Beteiligungen gibt es umsonst.
Und geht dann auf "Creditex sale with set record".
Die Shortseller, die momentan auch etwas dagegen halten haben keine Chance. Nutzt Eure Chance und kauft ihnen die Aktien ab. Denn wenn die erst eindecken (müssen) wird es teuer.
Ignore the nonsene of shortsellers about Metastorm. Criminal naked shortsellers post nonsense, because the announced 86 million are only a part of the shares.
Yon can read in the S1-filing: "The number of shares and price of the offering haven't been determined. The $86 million estimate was used to calculate the registration fee."
We can additional read, that the money from the ipo should be used to buy additional companies. That means, the shares of the ipo will not come from the existing shareholders. The shares for the ipo are new additional shares and the money from this shares will go to Metastorm for the expansion of Metastorm.
Big question is: What is the percentage of the new shares? After my estimates, Metastorm will increase the number of shares about 25% - that means in the result, that the worth of today existing shares = 332 million and the ipo-market-cap = 332 million + 86 million from new shares = 418 million.
Worth of the 32% of Metastorm = 32% from 332 million = about 100 million. After the ipo, we must look at the performance of the shares of Metastorm.
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Metastorm Inc. has filed to go public, seeking to raise as much as $86 million.
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Jefferies & Co. and Oppenheimer & Co. will be joint bookrunners for the offering, and Needham & Co., JMP Securities and Craig-Hallum Capital will be co-managers for the offering.
The company made $59.7 million in revenue in 2007, 70 percent of it in North America and 30 percent elsewhere, according to its filing. Metastorm totaled $42.1 million in revenue in 2006 and $25.3 million in 2005.
The company lost money each year from 2003 to 2006 -- as much as $15.8 million in 2004. After losing $660,000 in 2006, Metastorm swung to a $586,000 profit in 2007.
Metastorm hopes to sell its stock on the NASDAQ Global Market under the symbol MSTM.
The registration also shows the company has two lawsuits pending against it for patent and trademark infringement that could require it to stop selling licenses for its software.
Metastorm plans to use the money raised from the IPO to acquire additional companies and technologies and expand both sales and marketing and research and development, according to the filing. Metastorm has been on a bit of an acquisition spree of late, buying companies in Michigan and Europe to extend its reach and its product line.
Metastorm's investors include:
Internet Capital Group, a venture capital firm with 32.2 percent of the company;
ABS Capital Partners, which owns 16.8 percent;
3i Group, which owns 12.8 percent;
Wall Street Technology Partners, which owns 9.1 percent; and
CEO Farrell, who owns 2.1 percent.
Konservative Dividenten-Papiere haben in den letzten fünf Jahren,
neben einer 6-8%igen Dividente zwischen 500-1000 % gemacht !
In Deutschland hättest Du Unmengen an Durch-die-Decke-gehenden-Aktien
vorgefunden, mit KUV 0,1, da hättest Du nicht Tag und Nacht dieses komplizierte Papier
analysieren müssen !
VW von 30 € auf 200 € innerhalb 3 Jahre
United Internet von 2 € auf 60 € innerhalb 4-5 Jahre
Baywa, Pfeiffer Vakuum, Pfleiderer, BASF und viele kleine Klitschen und hunderte andere
sind durch die Decke gegangen und diese so unterbewertete Aktie hat nicht mal die Kraft
vor einem IPO bei optimistischem Umfeld etwas zuzulegen !!!
VERSPEKULIERT - die wenigen Gewinne wurden durch die Währung weggefressen -
hättest Du schmalz in den Armen würdest Du es zugeben -
aber ich rechne wieder mal mit einem Ausweichen !
Bin selbst gut investiert - aber ich gebe zu - ich habe mich verspekuliert -
denn bei mir waren VW, United Internet, Akamai, Cenit uvm. wirkliche Alternativen !!!
Ich rate Dir wirklich - werde frei und sage -
das war nichts - aber es kann noch was werden !
wenn Du Interesse daran hast, das in zwei Jahren zu verdienen,
was Du bei ICGE in den letzten fünf Jahren verpaßt hast,
dann kaufe Dir IQ POWER -
aber - das sage ich gleich - bei der Aktie braucht man Schmalz und Mut -
man darf da nicht ängstlich sein - da braucht man gut trainierte Muskeln -
doch es lohnt sich - mein Durchschnittskurs die letzten 6 Jahre war 47 Cent -
heute 1,20 € - doch es geht jetzt erst los - da kannst Du innerhalb zwei Jahren verdienen,
was Du bei ICGE die letzten 6 Jahre verpaßt hast !
Denn manchmal ist Verrücktheit und Lotterie besser als Analyse -
denn wie man sieht - wo kein Risiko - da kein Verdienst !
an einem Tag bei besonders gutem Umfeld,
mit 0,59 % im Minus zu schließen !!!
Und das bei angekündigten IPOs die bald kommen werden,
was das ganze noch trauriger macht !!!
Scheisshauspapier - bin selbst fett investiert -
doch ich bin ehrlich und muß sagen -
ich habe mich verspekuliert als ich vor fünf Jahren eingestiegen bin !!!
Soviel Schmalz gehört dazu !
Und trotzdem glaube ich noch an die 30-50 Dollar,
doch ich habe mich verspekuliert - denn man muß den Zeitaufwand mit einrechnen und
natürlich den Vergleich mit anderen Papieren im Durchschnitt !
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