Delphi 2009

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na am warten ;) und allem vorausgegangenem :)


keine kaufempfehlung gelle jeder muss selber wissen was er macht ist wie bei gutem sex mit der gfreundin von der freundin ;))))))))))))))))  

Da hast du allerdings recht, is mir auch klar. Mich interessiert nur, warum Ihr so denkt!

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vieleicht sind es die fakten ???????

und was bei gericht war und im übrigen ist wie bei wamuq zock sfg
jedoch denke ich eher auf erfolg alles was über 0,05 ist
have a god one  

Sep 08, 2009 13:42 ET
What Will the Car of the Future Look Like? Delphi Highlights Technologies That Will Help Make Vehicles Safer

Leading Automotive Supplier Shares Vision on Technologies That Are Shaping the Future

PARIS--(Marketwire - September 8, 2009) - In advance of the 2009 edition of the IAA International Motor Show in Frankfurt (Germany), Delphi Corporation (PINKSHEETS: DPHIQ), a leading global automotive supplier, highlights 'safe' technologies that will equip the car of the future. Improving safety has always been one of the main concerns of the automotive industry, and suppliers are instrumental in developing innovative solutions that enhance safety. While major safety improvements have been made in the past decade, additional innovation can continue to reduce the number of accidents that occur. Understanding and anticipating traffic conditions and road hazards is key to this goal. Active safety systems are designed to help reduce the risk of an accident occurring. By communicating at speeds far greater than human reaction time, these systems may soon be able to coordinate action taken between vehicle systems to mitigate crashes, as well as communicate with other vehicles to avoid them altogether. For further information on any of the technologies mentioned below, interviews with Delphi subject matter experts can be scheduled upon request.

- Safety Security Telematics - Using an embedded phone with GPS and a connection to a telematics service provider, not only can vehicle safety be enhanced, but so can road safety. With an "electronic sub-system" in the car, drivers can be apprised of road hazards, local emergencies, and even alerted of potential car theft. Systems on the road today automatically call for assistance in the event of an accident and future systems are being designed to take advantage of vehicle-to-vehicle infrastructure and vehicle-to-vehicle communication to further enhance safety.

Expected on the roads : Safety Security Telematics systems are currently on the road. More advanced systems may be available as early as 2012. The European Union recently announced that it could force car manufacturers to install what is called an eCall system into new European cars by 2014.

- Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC) - Delphi's ACC system uses a precision, long-range radar to detect forward traffic up to 200 meters ahead. Using the vehicle's braking and throttle systems, ACC automatically adjusts speed to maintain a driver-specified headway-gap (following distance) from the vehicle ahead. When equipped with the Stop & Go feature, the system provides speed control down to a complete stop, expanding ACC operation for high-congestion, urban traffic situations. The same long-range radar can also serve as the platform for other safety systems such as forward collision warning and pre-crash sensing.

Expected on the roads : Radar-based adaptive Cruise Control has been available on premium vehicles since 1999, and has extended into lower cost vehicles as the technology has matured.

- First Multimode Electronically-Scanning Automotive Radar - The new multimode electronically-scanning radar (ESR) developed by Delphi uses proven solid state technology with no moving parts and provides improved performance, packaging and durability at a price that will help make radar-based convenience and safety systems affordable in the high-volume automotive market. Today's adaptive cruise control systems use multiple beam radars with either mechanical scanning or several fixed overlapping beams to achieve the required coverage. Electronic scanning systems will provide a substantially superior solution because they combine exceptional performance with durability and compact dimensions. Electronic scanning systems have been used by the military for some time, but until now, they have been too expensive for automotive use. Delphi's breakthrough radar can provide both mid- and long-range detection simultaneously and is being produced using processes that are already well established for high-volume manufacture of engine control units. By providing both detection zones with one sensor, the need for multiple sensors is eliminated.

Expected on the roads : First automotive application was recently launched on the 2010 Ford Taurus. Other 2010 model year launches will follow in North America and Europe.

- Active Safety Systems with pedestrian detection and full braking power - Delphi's latest technology takes active safety to the next level with features like collision warning, full automatic braking power, pedestrian detection and lane departure warning. At the heart of these systems are Delphi's innovative vision and radar sensors. Using unique data fusion algorithms that combine inputs from the sensors, the system warns drivers of an imminent collision with a pedestrian or vehicle and automatically brakes if the driver is not able.

Expected on the roads: First introduction planned in the 2010 Volvo S60.

- Pre-crash Sensing - Delphi's pre-crash sensing system helps enhance vehicle safety by providing advanced driver warning of potential collisions, or reducing the severity of unavoidable frontal collisions. Precision radar sensors, coupled on some models with optional vision fusion capability, scan and track objects in the forward view. Equipped with algorithms designed to assess an impending accident, these systems analyze the situation, and determine when to warn the driver and when to actuate autonomous safety measures. These measures include brake assist, automatic braking and pretensioning safety belts to remove seat belt slack and better position the occupant for a collision.

Expected on the roads : This Delphi technology has been on the road since 2007 and is expected to become more widely available as active safety systems proliferate throughout the vehicle market.

- Side Alert / Merge Assist - Motorists changing lanes and making turns face challenges from blind spots at the sides of their vehicles. While vehicle designers are working to eliminate these blind spots, Delphi's active safety technologies can help mitigate their potential impact today. If a vehicle is detected in a side blind spot, Side Alert can help drivers avoid a lane change accident by providing an illuminated visual indication in the side mirror. When the turn signal is activated to signal a lane change, the driver also receives an audible alert.

Expected on the roads : Initial Delphi production systems monitored adjacent-lane blind spots and have been available on commercial vehicles since 2003, Next generation systems, scheduled to launch in 2011, will have a longer coverage area and monitor for rear-crossing traffic when backing out of parking spaces or alleys.

- Intelligent Forward View Camera - Delphi's high-performance camera and intelligent image processing techniques provide robust sensing and tracking for safety and convenience functions. Replacing standalone sensors with a single high-performance camera, the system has a scalable architecture that can support multiple functions including lane departure warning, advanced headlamp control, road sign recognition, pedestrian detection and rain sensing all in the same package.

Expected on the roads : Initial Delphi vision systems have been on the road since 2007, and the use of these systems is expected to expand as governments consider new car "star" ratings for active safety features in the future.

Innovation for the Real World

Delphi brings the power of innovation to a wide range of products and services that add value for car makers and car drivers alike. From vehicle components and systems to medical devices and beyond, Delphi delivers real-world innovations that help make products smarter, safer, more powerful, and much more valuable.

For more information about Delphi Corp. (PINKSHEETS: DPHIQ), visit www.delphi.com.

http://www.marketwire.com/press-release/...i-Corporation-1041313.html

Lada, das ist die Firma Automotivo in Russland.
Lada hat ein starkes Absatzproblem.
Keiner will mehr Lada fahren.
Das Kupplung harkt. Dem Motor fehlt es an Leistung. Klimaanlage nicht an Bord und das Auto ist zu teuer.
Vergleichbare ausländische Modelle sind besser ausgestattet und wesentlich besser verarbeitet.

Nur der Kreml wir nie die Firma Automotivo fallen lassen. Das würde einer Katastrophe im russischen Automobilbau gleich kommen und politisch die Bankrotterklärung für den russischen Automobilbau darstellen.

Was ist da nicht leichter als sich irgendwo anderer Spitzentechnologie billigst zu bedienen.

So wollte man unbedingt an OPEL ran, über MAGNA, um die Firma Automotivo mit westlichen Know-How wieder zu beleben. Die Technologie braucht aber GM für sich selbst.
Demnächst werden wir wohl den dritten Gedanken sehen, der da wäre, einfach systemwichtige Zulieferer zu kaufen für den Automobilbau. Und wer ist da nicht gerade alles so angeschlagen und hat mit die neusten Innovationen an Patenten in seinem Safe? Nicht nur Delphi, aber Delphi ist besonders interessant, weil Delphi auch an dem Bau des Nano in Indien beteiligt ist und die kenne sich mit kostengünstigen Strukturen auch bestens aus.

Gruß Marlboromann  

na ist das überm teich nicht lustig heute die 0,042 wird nicht geknackt ;))
gehen alle wie die katze um den heisssen brei  

Hallo zusammen.

Ich verfolge das ganze Thema jetzt auch schon eine Weile, muss mich aber nun doch einmal zu Wort melden.

Was hier gestern wieder für Euphorie herrschte kann ich absolut nicht nachvollziehen.

Die Kurse stecken seid Wochen bei 0,030 ct fest und hier ging gestern ein Raunen durch den Raum, nur aufgrund einer ganz normalen minimalen intraday Kursschwankung...

Ich kann eure derzeitige Euphorie beim besten willen nicht nachvollziehen, zumal eure Interpretationen der Nachrichten reine Spekulation sind.

Meiner Meinung nach ist zur Zeit eine Liquidation von Delphi um einiges wahrscheinlicher als ein weiter bestehen.

Und ob nach Abzahlen der Schulden noch genügend Geld vorhanden ist um auch die kleinen Gesellschafter auszuzahlen bezweifel ich noch ganz stark.

Eine wirklich positive Entwicklung kann man aus den bisher geposteten News aber keinesfalls ableiten.

 

 

Entscheidung.
Deswegen ist hier noch alles möglich.

tachchen ;)

weis ja nicht wie lange du hier mitliest, jedoch ist hier keiner eupohrie getaucht wir warten nur :)
wenn delphi liquitiert werden sollte ,so hätte das schon ende juli der richter zugestimmt gelle, also wenn du mehr über delphi wissen willst so fang ab mitte juli an hier zu lesen
mfg  

Wird Zeit das sich was tut warten ist echt nicht schön  

warten macht doch spass
nur wer zeit hatt gewinnt
alte russische regel :))))))) gelle

geh nun pflaumen abmachen muss ja im winter noch marmelade zum essen haben wenn das hier nix wird
sfg  

Delphi Highlights Technologies That Are Enhancing Vehicle Connectivity

Leading Automotive Supplier Shares Vision on Connectivity Technology That Is Shaping the Future

PARIS--(Marketwire - September 10, 2009) - In advance of the 2009 IAA International Motor Show in Frankfurt (Germany), Delphi Corporation (PINKSHEETS: DPHIQ) is highlighting the company's 'connected' technologies that will equip the car of the future.

Fulfilling consumers' insatiable demand for an ever-increasing array of entertainment and communication options, vehicles of today and tomorrow not only transport their passengers, but also entertain, inform, protect and connect them. As a leading global automotive supplier, Delphi is offering numerous real-world innovations that help keep users connected. For further information on any of the technologies mentioned below, interviews with Delphi subject matter experts can be scheduled upon request.

-- Enhanced data connectivity systems -- Consumers are demanding more options and greater variety to remain connected while in their vehicles. With Delphi data connectivity systems, the alternatives are virtually unlimited and offer consumers many choices. Delphi's data connectivity systems, which include consumer ports, cable assemblies, connection systems, and hubs, allow passengers to access consumer devices such as iPods and flash drives, and to stream and download music files so that they can be enjoyed through the vehicle's audio system. These ports also allow consumers to view images stored on photo cards, play video games, charge devices such as cell phones, and more. Interfaces between the vehicle's data systems and consumer devices can be conveniently located for easy access. These consumer ports include standard USB ports, RCA jacks for video games, analog ports for headphones, SD slots for photo cards, data, and music -- whatever will best meet consumers' needs and desires. Delphi's automotive USB hub allows multiple ports to be placed in a vehicle and the recently introduced Combo Ports can be configured in any combination of the single ports offered.

Expected on the roads : A major North American automaker designated Delphi as its sole data connectivity supplier for models with production start dates beginning in 2010.

-- High-Speed Digital Data (HSDD) connectivity system -- Delphi's HSDD cable assemblies and connectors, are engineered to link the various vehicle data systems to the consumer. This technology removes a significant barrier to the implementation of wide-ranging, in-vehicle connectivity by providing a single, cost-effective system that communicates over a broad range of high-speed protocols including USB, 1394, LVDS, FlexRay, eMOST and Ethernet.

Expected on the roads : Beginning with model year 2009, Delphi's HSDD has been included on new GM vehicles in Europe.

-- Dual-View Display -- The vehicle's central information display has typically been used by drivers for navigation information, entertainment and to adjust vehicle systems, but consumer research shows that passengers would like to use the display to view TV or films and even surf the internet or reply to email. All of these functions are likely to be possible as technology progresses. Delphi's dual-view display already addresses the desire of front-seat passengers to view different content than drivers, using an innovative electronic shutter system that allows the driver and passenger to see different images on the same screen. The unique technology recognizes whether the passenger or driver is using the system controls and enables or disables content appropriately.

Expected on the roads : Dual-view technology was recently launched in Japan and Europe.

-- Bluetooth™ Connectivity -- By 2010, analysts predict that 70% of cell phone users in Europe and 65% of users in the United States will have Bluetooth capability. Delphi's Bluetooth interface already makes hands-free phone operation possible in the vehicle. In the near future, new features such as Message Access Profile (MAP) and Personal Navigation Profile (PNP) will be integrated into the receiver and allow e-mail and text messages to be handled via the vehicle's infotainment system. Further into the future, high-speed Bluetooth (Bluetooth 3.0) will enable implementation of additional applications including high-quality video streaming to display units located in the backs of seats, wirelessly. Leveraging the expertise of its wholly-owned subsidiary, Mecel, Delphi is defining its product technology using a complete automotive Bluetooth platform that includes a global interoperability program designed to simplify implementation of Bluetooth connectivity in vehicles. This program helps ensure global compatibility of mobile phones and reduces development costs to enhance customer value.

Expected on the roads : Bluetooth connectivity is expected to become standard in next-generation infotainment systems.

-- Next-Generation Antenna Reception Systems -- Next-generation reception systems will include Delphi's Multiple Input Multiple Output Antenna (MIMO), a new technology that is expected to be available as early as 2011. MIMO multi-antenna capabilities improve signal reception in addition to providing excellent network scalability and link adaptation for next-generation advanced wireless access. Scalability and link adaptation are expected to be key enablers for future applications that have high spectral efficiency requirements such as mobile internet connectivity, real-time multimedia products and streaming video. Characterized as highly reliable, MIMO antenna technology will help to pave the way for the demanding core applications of Vehicle to vehicle (V2V) communication and mobile device integration.

Expected on the roads : Delphi's MIMO technology is expected to be ready for serial production as early as 2011.

-- Digital Entertainment -- The introduction of new digital technology is significantly changing audio and video options for consumers, globally. Delphi has already taken radio and video technology into the digital realm, enabling high-quality reception, superior sound quality and innovative data services. Specialized audio, video and tuner technologies are being used to provide distinctive entertainment systems compatible with multiple regional and worldwide reception standards, including HD radio, DRM/DRM+, DAB/DAB+, DMB or SDARS.

A big success in the North America, satellite radio is expected to be available in Europe within the next few years. Delphi is helping vehicle manufacturers deliver hundreds of sport, comedy and current affairs channels to vehicles across the continent. Satellite broadcasts are received in digital quality, and with the help of terrestrial repeaters, users can maintain uninterrupted reception wherever they may drive. Delphi's proprietary receiver technology has resulted in more data capacity within the frequency allocation previously used only for satellite radio broadcasts. This technology enables satellite TV reception in vehicles while preserving the existing satellite radio infrastructure.

Expected on the roads : European satellite service providers envision introduction of satellite entertainment within the next few years.

-- World TV Reception System -- Delphi's Fuba™ World Reception System uses multiple antennas, integrated amplifiers and ScanDiv™ technology to provide high-performance TV reception in vehicles. Patented ScanDiv technology automatically selects the best audio and video signal from the system's four antennas to provide passengers with high-quality audio and TV. The multi-standard receiver is compatible with analog NTSC, PAL and SECAM signals as well as ATSC-MH, DVB-T and ISDB-T digital signals.

Expected on the roads : The system is currently available on select BMW, Daimler, GM, SGM and Porsche vehicles.

-- Integrated Driver Interface -- One of Delphi's latest in-vehicle solutions, the integrated driver interface is helping drivers remain focused within a 20-degree field of view while keeping their eyes on the road and hands on the wheel. Demonstrated in Delphi's ICP (Information, Convenience, and Protection) vehicle, the integrated driver interface helps drivers to better manage the high content, complex environment of vehicles with consistent, easy-to-access information.

Expected on the roads : These technologies may be available as early as 2012.

-- Reconfigurable Clusters -- Delphi offers a full-range of electronic instrumentation from hybrid clusters targeted for high-value vehicles to fully reconfigurable clusters. Delphi's reconfigurable display architecture allows vehicle manufacturers to commonize displays across platforms while maintaining brand and platform differentiation through software programming. Reconfigurable displays also permit drivers to tailor displays based on personal preferences. Future vehicles may even use face recognition techniques to personalize content and enable vehicle access based upon the presence of a specific driver.

Expected on the roads : Reconfigurable displays are beginning to appear in the market. Larger and more compelling display information will appear as the technology matures and should be on the road in 2011.

-- Reconfigurable Head-up Display -- Delphi's latest generation head-up display enhances safety by projecting a defined set of critical vehicle information directly in front of the driver. The display can be reconfigurable and connect the driver to additional data pertaining to the entertainment and navigation systems. In Delphi's ICP concept vehicle, the system provides a simplified infotainment menu and turn-by-turn directions. In addition, it can overlay graphics to map road features and warnings. To enhance convenience, the display is mapped to multifunction controls, simplifying the user interface.

Expected on the roads : Delphi fixed-segment head-up displays have been on the road since 1988. Reconfigurable technology has been introduced in select vehicles. As it matures, multi-color displays and enhanced reconfigurability is expected to offer more information to drivers. These enhanced displays are expected to be available as early as 2013.

-- Bluetooth Gateway Key Fob -- Delphi's ICP vehicle also features a key fob that enables two-way communication between the user and vehicle via a Bluetooth gateway in the fob. Using a portable device such as a cell phone, the driver can check the status of various vehicle functions, including fuel level and temperature remotely, open the windows, adjust interior temperature and program a destination in the navigation system. Confirmation of operations is received on a user-friendly display.

Expected on the roads : Delphi's Bluetooth Gateway Fob may be on the road as early as 2011.

-- Multimedia Radio -- Delphi has a broad base of global entertainment, communication, reception and safety systems expertise that enables us to provide customers with high-value, integrated information and entertainment systems. Delphi provides a solid hardware and software base for multimedia head units and is developing multi-functional units with an entertainment, navigation and connectivity feature set, cost-effectively. Its scalable feature set will allow manufacturers to provide multimedia radios designed for a specific vehicle segment -- from entry-level to premium. Initiatives like the Linux-based Genivi consortium will help to make these systems more cost-effective as well as to become recognized as a standard feature of the vehicle.

Expected on the roads : Delphi's first multimedia head unit will soon be launched in China and appear in Europe in 2010.

-- Car-to-Car and Car-to-Infrastructure Communication -- Thousands of fatalities occur each year resulting from vehicles leaving the road or traveling unsafely through intersections. Interest in Car-to-Car (C2C) and Car-to-Infrastructure (C2X) communication is growing globally because of its potential to increase traffic safety and help mitigate crashes, injuries and fatalities. It also has the potential to reduce CO2 emissions by improving traffic efficiency. Vehicles of the future will include on-board communication units that collect data transmitted from the roadside and other vehicles to help warn drivers of up-coming traffic and road conditions. Leveraging expertise in systems integration, software architecture and data flow, Delphi is prepared to support the development C2C and C2X communication using a highly customizable software architecture, rapid implementation and prototyping of applications that are effective in even the harshest environmental conditions will be possible.

Expected on the roads : C2C and C2X Communication is expected to be introduced as early as 2015 and, one day, may be required by law to protect drivers.

-- Advanced Multifunction Controls -- Connecting the head-up display and advanced multifunction controls, the Delphi ICP vehicle demonstrates a reconfigurable steering wheel control system that provides drivers easy access to information content while they keep their eyes on the road and hands on the wheel.

Expected on the roads : Multi-function controls are currently available on vehicles. This advanced integrated HMI (Human Machine Interface) technology is expected to be on the road as early as 2012.

-- LED Interior Lighting -- Delphi offers new LED lighting technologies that provide vehicle manufacturers the ability to create a unique and inviting vehicle interior and the potential for brand differentiation. A multitude of colors -- fixed and reconfigurable -- combined with lightpiping presents endless interior design possibilities. This technology is just beginning to be available in vehicles, and offers endless brand and personalization possibilities for the future.

Expected on the roads : LED lighting technology is currently on the road in select vehicles, and the technology is expected to gain popularity over the next few years.

-- Reconfigurable Displays with Touch Screen and Haptic Technology -- Reconfigurable displays with a touch screen and haptic technology allow multiple functions to be controlled by a single device, eliminating buttons while providing more features and functions. Sensors will anticipate the user's intentions and automatically provide the proper menu. For example, a different menu could be provided if an action was sensed from the passenger side of the vehicle versus the driver side.

Expected on the roads : This technology set may be available as early as 2010.

Innovation for the Real World

Delphi brings the power of innovation to a wide range of products and services that add value for car makers and car drivers alike. From vehicle components and systems to medical devices and beyond, Delphi delivers real-world innovations that help make products smarter, safer, more powerful, and much more valuable.

http://www.marketwire.com/press-release/...i-Corporation-1042867.html

Deswegen steht für mich fest das die Firma  auch weiter existieren wird!

tachchen
aber vorher ein paar € verdienen gelle
sfg  

NICHT VERFALLEN ????????????????


Decon

Thursday, September 10, 2009, 2:54pm EDT
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When Delphi Thermal Systems in Lockport is taken over by General Motors sometime in the next couple of weeks, the plant will lose more than the hundreds of workers who become GM employees.

Also gone will be its crown as Western New York’s largest manufacturer.

After 10 years, that title will go again to General Motors, which created Delphi in 1999. GM will have a 2,545-member workforce at two sites — Lockport and the present Powertrain engine plant in the Town of Tonawanda.

But the largest single manufacturing site will be in East Aurora where Moog Inc. has 2,358 employees. No. 2 will be Dresser-Rand Co. in Olean with 2,300 employees.

Delphi Thermal, one of four Delphi Corp. plants being sold to GM, has seen its workforce drop steadily for years. Since early this year it fell from 2,100 to 1,700.

After the switch of the Delphi plants to GM, which is a condition of Delphi’ Corp.’s exit from bankruptcy, General Motors will pick up 1,500 of the present 1,700 Delphi employees at Lockport.

The other 200 will remain in research and develop activities at the Delphi Technical Center, which is on the same site as the manufacturing facility.

Delphi will sell its buildings to GM and lease back the tech center, Delphi spokeswoman Claudia Piccinin said.

Michigan-based auto supplier Delphi is continuing to trim its salaried and hourly workforce ahead of its expected exit from bankruptcy protection.

Delphi spokesman Lindsey Williams said the company’s workforce is being adjusted to meet reduced production volumes.

As of June 30, Delphi’s U.S. employment was about 14,000, with about 7,300 hourly workers. Delphi said earlier that it planned to have about 12,700 workers by the end of the year at four plants, including Lockport.

Separately, Delphi may not emerge from Chapter 11 by Sept. 30 as planned, but could sometime in October.

“We expect to exit on or around Oct. 1, however, the actual timing will ultimately be impacted by the receipt of the necessary regulatory approvals,” Williams said.

The auto supplier filed for bankruptcy protection in October 2005.  

Der Artikel den du eingefügt hast ist zwar schön und gut, aber das ist nichts anderes als Eigenwerbung für das Unternehmen.

Die können noch so tolle Idden und Pläne bis 2015 haben, wenn das Unternehmen keine investoren findet bringt denen das garnichts.

Eigenwerbung ist nun wirklich kein Indikator für die zukünftige Entwicklung der aktuellen Situation...

 

mußt du auch feststellen das dort GM als Partner genant wurde.

"After 10 years, that title will go again to General Motors, which created Delphi in 1999. GM will have a 2,545-member workforce at two sites — Lockport and the present Powertrain engine plant in the Town of Tonawanda."

"Delphi Thermal, one of four Delphi Corp. plants being sold to GM, has seen its workforce drop steadily for years. Since early this year it fell from 2,100 to 1,700."

"Delphi will sell its buildings to GM and lease back the tech center, Delphi spokeswoman Claudia Piccinin said.

Sind die 1,75 Milliarden Dollar die GM Delphi als Anleihe gibt keine Investition?

Wie war noch mal die Behauptung: ,,... wenn das Unternehmen keine Investoren findet, bringt denen das gar nichts."

Richtig, aber leider hat GM sich schon als Investor angeboten und der Deal steht auch schon. Dazu muss GM nicht Aktionär von Delphi werden.

Gruß Marlboromann  

Bei cortal nichts möglich  

 

Die frage ist wie hoch wird er diesmal sein...

denke so ende nächster mitte übernächster ;)  

wnn mann bedenkt mit wievielen kleinen pos der kurs hoch und runter geht ist doch erstaunlich :)  

na wenn du nächster mitte übernächster Woche deine 1000%hast freust du dich doch auch (lach)